Bad form?

JustBeginning · #1 08-14-2006, 07:14 AM

My brother was playing a hand on Pokerstars when the following happened. Is it acceptable behaviour to ask an opponeent not to call? What can be done about it?

PokerStars Game #5883115097: Tournament #29787350, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/08/11 - 21:51:56 (ET)
Table '29787350 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 6: ryguyism (4455 in chips)
Seat 8: Giller_Wpg (6615 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO (1550 in chips)
Seat 10: golfnut2005 (2380 in chips)
ryguyism: posts the ante 25
Giller_Wpg: posts the ante 25
HERO: posts the ante 25
golfnut2005: posts the ante 25
Giller_Wpg: posts small blind 100
HERO: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kh Qd]
ryguyism said, "giller"
golfnut2005: folds
Giller_Wpg said, "?"
ryguyism: calls 200
Giller_Wpg: calls 100
twotwoallin: raises 600 to 800
ryguyism said, "dont call"
Giller_Wpg said, "ok"
ryguyism: raises 3630 to 4430 and is all-in
Giller_Wpg: folds
HERO: calls 725 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8h 9c 7d]
*** TURN *** [8h 9c 7d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [8h 9c 7d Ad] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
twotwoallin: shows [Kh Qd] (high card Ace)
ryguyism: shows [9d 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
ryguyism collected 3350 from pot
Giller_Wpg said, "lol nh"
golfnut2005 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3350 | Rake 0
Board [8h 9c 7d Ad 3c]
Seat 6: ryguyism (button) showed [9d 9s] and won (3350) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: Giller_Wpg (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: HERO (big blind) showed [Kh Qd] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 10: golfnut2005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

QuickLearner · #2 08-14-2006, 07:59 AM

Bad form? Yes.
Cheating? Yes.

These two should be reported to Pokerstars immediately. Even though attempting to isolate against a short stack on the bubble with 99 means he's an idiot, the fact that he wanted to make sure his friend didn't play against him makes him a cheat.

JustBeginning · #3 08-14-2006, 08:05 AM

Thanks for that, wanted to make sure before I emailed them. Not sure exactly what can be done about it now, but hopfully it will prevent it happening someone else in the future.

SheridanCat · #4 08-14-2006, 08:09 AM

Agreed with QuickLearner, illegal as can be. PokerStars should be alerted.

RoyalMag · #5 08-14-2006, 09:58 AM

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Thanks for that, wanted to make sure before I emailed them. Not sure exactly what can be done about it now, but hopfully it will prevent it happening someone else in the future.

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Too late to help your brother but not too late to get them banned so they can't do it again.

JustBeginning · #6 08-14-2006, 10:11 AM

Got an email back saying that the person in question may not have been aware of the rules and has been informed of them now. A further infringement might mean a chat revokation or disqualification. Etc.

Is that not a bit lenient? It was small stakes, but surely they should at least be banned from chat?

SheridanCat · #7 08-14-2006, 10:42 AM

That's basically the same thing that would have happened in most casinos. There would be a warning before any penalty action, so it seems okay to me.

JustBeginning · #8 08-14-2006, 10:46 AM

Cool, fair enough. Doubt we'll run into him again anyway, and it's the first time I'm seen anything like this and hopefully the last.

jjshabado · #9 08-14-2006, 07:23 PM

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Doubt we'll run into him again anyway, and it's the first time I'm seen anything like this and hopefully the last.

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I agree whole-heartedly that its cheating and they should be kicked in the balls, but I think you want to see them again. Anybody stupid enough to cheat through the chat for all to see instead of say MSN or other IM client has to be functionally retarded.

Kaeser · #10 08-14-2006, 09:43 PM

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Doubt we'll run into him again anyway, and it's the first time I'm seen anything like this and hopefully the last.

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I agree whole-heartedly that its cheating and they should be kicked in the balls, but I think you want to see them again. Anybody stupid enough to cheat through the chat for all to see instead of say MSN or other IM client has to be functionally retarded.

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I doubt these guys realized what they were doing was cheating. I can't count the times I've played live and had a guy say, "check it down?" or similar. In this case a warning is appropriate. If it happens again of course I'm sure that Stars will take sterner measures.