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Old 08-10-2006, 10:17 PM
dguild dguild is offline
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Default Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

I loved Mansion Poker. I do better there than anywhere else. I love the sports exchange even more. But I have to post this in the hopes it spurs them to fix the software or get something new.

This happened about two weeks ago, 22 hands and 3 minutes apart at two seperate tables. The site was having connection problems and this occured in the second hand at the table after they finally resolved it and let players back in.

Odds of exact same board in exact same order- 1 in 311.8 Million(1/52 * 1/51 * 1/50 * 1/49 * 1/48)

Odds of exact same board, in exact same order, big blind having pocket aces, and the button having pocket 10's- 1 in 333.7 TRILLION. (1 in 311.8 Million * 2/47 * 1/46 * 2/45 * 1/44)

I have never asked for a penny back from the hand (I am dguild) and still don't. I just want to play on random functioning software.

HAND HISTORY DETAILS
***** Hand History for Game 3211099 *****

Buy in Table 0521
Hand start time: 2006-07-28 00:22:04

Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players: 8
Seat 1: nutziwish(40.00)
Seat 2:
Seat 3: Cap(40.00)
Seat 4: monkeyballs(57.00)
Seat 5: TiredOfBadBeat(179.75)
Seat 6: dguild(200.00)
Seat 7: Housedawg(40.00)
Seat 8: hou2010(53.75)
Seat 9: p0ck3tac3s(44.75)

Current Number of Players: 14
p0ck3tac3s start position: 44.75
hou2010 start position: 53.75
Housedawg start position: 40.00
dguild start position: 200.00
TiredOfBadBeat start position: 179.75
monkeyballs start position: 57.00
Cap start position: 40.00
nutziwish start position: 40.00
TiredOfBadBeat posts small blind (1)
dguild posts big blind (2)
Housedawg posts (2)
nutziwish posts (2)
Cap posts (2)
dguild is dealt down [Ad Ac]
Housedawg raises to (6)
hou2010 folds
p0ck3tac3s calls (6)
nutziwish calls (6)
Cap folds
monkeyballs raises to (57) and is all-in
TiredOfBadBeat folds
hou2010 says: "lol"
dguild raises to (200) and is all-in
Housedawg calls (40) and is all-in
p0ck3tac3s folds
nutziwish folds
dguild is refunded (143)
monkeyballs says: "1010"
flop: [4c Tc Ah]
dguild says: "AA"
turn: [7d]
river: [Ts]
monkeyballs says: "nh'"
dguild shows [Ad Ac] for a full house, aces full of tens
monkeyballs shows [Td Th] for four of a kind, tens
monkeyballs wins (34)
Housedawg mucks
monkeyballs says: "wow"
monkeyballs wins (132)
dguild says: "oh my lord"
hou2010 says: "lol"
rake is (3)
nutziwish end position: 34.00
Cap end position: 38.00
monkeyballs end position: 166.00
TiredOfBadBeat end position: 178.75
dguild end position: 143.00
Housedawg end position: 0.00
hou2010 end position: 53.75
p0ck3tac3s end position: 38.75
Hand end time: 2006-07-28 00:23:13

***** Hand History for Game 3211077 *****

RingGames
Friday, July, 28, 12:18:59 EDT 2006

Table 518
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players: 9
Seat 1:ciaffone(7.50)
Seat 2:supremedicta(39.25)
Seat 3:seandamien(8.75)
Seat 4:flipside(20.00)
Seat 5anny Lewis(53.70)
Seat 6:JoshnCO(41.65)
Seat 7:Michael_Fusaro(24.50)
Seat 8:djpancho(9.50)
Seat 9:Bettheriver(18.75)

Current Number of Players: 35
Bettheriver start position: 18.75
djpancho start position: 9.50
Michael_Fusaro start position: 24.50
JoshnCO start position: 41.65
Danny Lewis start position: 53.70
flipside start position: 20.00
seandamien start position: 8.75
supremedicta start position: 39.25
ciaffone start position: 7.50
Danny Lewis posts small blind (0.25)
JoshnCO posts big blind (0.50)
ciaffone is dealt down [6c 8c]
supremedicta is dealt down [X X]
seandamien is dealt down [Td Th]
Danny Lewis is dealt down [3s 3c]
JoshnCO is dealt down [Ad Ac]
Michael_Fusaro is dealt down [X X]
djpancho is dealt down [X X]
Bettheriver is dealt down [X X]
ciaffone says: "NICE STEAL DANNY"
Michael_Fusaro raises to (1.50)
Danny Lewis says: "had pr"
ciaffone says: "lol"
djpancho calls (1.50)
Bettheriver folds
ciaffone calls (1.50)
supremedicta folds
seandamien calls (1.50)
Danny Lewis raises to (6)
JoshnCO raises to (41.65) and is all-in
Michael_Fusaro says: "lol"
Michael_Fusaro folds
djpancho folds
ciaffone calls (7.50) and is all-in
Danny Lewis says: "ah sod it ill lose but hey"
seandamien calls (8.75) and is all-in
Danny Lewis calls (41.65)
Danny Lewis is refunded (0)
flop: [4c Tc Ah]
turn: [7d]
river: [Ts]
Danny Lewis shows [3s 3c] for two pair, tens and threes
JoshnCO shows [Ad Ac] for a full house, aces full of tens
JoshnCO says: "lol"
JoshnCO wins (64.60)
seandamien shows [Td Th] for four of a kind, tens
seandamien wins (3.60)
Michael_Fusaro says: "lol"
ciaffone shows [6c 8c] for a pair of tens
supremedicta says: "wow"
seandamien wins (31.35)
rake is (3)
ciaffone end position: 0.00
supremedicta end position: 39.25
seandamien end position: 34.95
flipside end position: 20.00
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Anders Anders is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

Holy [censored] that is terrible if true [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:27 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

Im am inclined to believe this is true, sadly.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

WTF. Seriously.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:09 AM
The_Bankroll The_Bankroll is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

wow. just wow. every down to the suits.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

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***** Hand History for Game 3211099 *****

Buy in Table 0521
Hand start time: 2006-07-28 00:22:04



[/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ]

***** Hand History for Game 3211077 *****

RingGames
Friday, July, 28, 12:18:59 EDT 2006



[/ QUOTE ]

Why are the headers different?
Why didn't you at least make them "3 minutes apart"?
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:15 AM
sunnypoker sunnypoker is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

well, it is three minutes apart....

12:18:59 is literally 12:19 which is 3 mins before 00:22, which is literally 12:22

although as for the difference in the format it does question me.
but i still believe you and don't see a point of you making a fake post (if it was fake)
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:29 AM
grinin grinin is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

how about 12 hours apart?
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:31 AM
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but i still believe you and don't see a point of you making a fake post (if it was fake)

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but I am sure someone will simply independently check the hand histories and confirm OP's story
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:41 AM
Folding Pete Folding Pete is offline
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Default Re: Mansion Deals Exact Same Hand 3 Minutes Apart (hand histories inc)

Sounds like they are using a predictable random number generator and started the sequence again in the same place.

Remember Planet were using a similar RNG a few years back. A software company figured out the RNG and the timing and wrote software that allowed it to display all the players hands and predict the turn and river cards once it had the flop cards and 1 players hand.
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