PokerBob gets screwed at work. What would you do?(tl;dr) - Page 2

PokerBob · #1 06-07-2006, 08:59 PM

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Suck it up. You took a year off and they covered for you and this is the price you have to pay. You have to start off again at the bottom of the ladder, work your way back up and prove yourself all over again. You did it once you can do it again. I hope you enjoyed your year off.

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They did not "cover for me". I had to request the leave, and the school board had to approve it. They did approve it. They could have denied it. It wasn't like I left them in the lurch. Also, I do not lose my seniority simply because I took a leave.

surfinillini · #2 06-07-2006, 10:13 PM

didn't you start a thread stating you were a poker pro?

I'm confused

make up your mind already

livinitup0 · #3 06-07-2006, 09:19 PM

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Suck it up. You took a year off and they covered for you and this is the price you have to pay. You have to start off again at the bottom of the ladder, work your way back up and prove yourself all over again. You did it once you can do it again. I hope you enjoyed your year off.

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BS...tenure is tenure

ChipWrecked · #4 06-09-2006, 04:11 AM

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Suck it up. You took a year off and they covered for you and this is the price you have to pay. You have to start off again at the bottom of the ladder, work your way back up and prove yourself all over again. You did it once you can do it again. I hope you enjoyed your year off.

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Schneids · #5 06-07-2006, 08:55 PM

Use former students to your advantage as much as possible, that's for sure. Otherwise, if they are unable to incite change, raise bloody hell and if nothing happens then let me stake you in poker.

PokerBob · #6 06-07-2006, 09:00 PM

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Use former students to your advantage as much as possible, that's for sure. Otherwise, if they are unable to incite change, raise bloody hell and if nothing happens then let me stake you in poker.

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I am all for "raising bloody hell", but what does that entail? Is raising my voice going to do any good? Is threatening to quit going to do any good?

dcasper70 · #7 06-07-2006, 09:12 PM

Are you prepared to quit over this issue?

If so, do everything within your legal rights. Take the issue to the school board, and take it to your local newspaper as well. Spread the word that this is happening.

The school board needs to know how your admins are performing.
Other teachers need to know that this could happen to them.
Parents need to know that their kids are getting the shaft.
Kids need to be informed, and they can choose to be a force on their own.

Go up the chain in the most professional manner you can handle.

Good luck!

Edit: Just saw that you don't want to quit. Still think the issue needs escalating, just more delicately.

PokerBob · #8 06-07-2006, 09:27 PM

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Are you prepared to quit over this issue?

If so, do everything within your legal rights. Take the issue to the school board, and take it to your local newspaper as well. Spread the word that this is happening.

The school board needs to know how your admins are performing.
Other teachers need to know that this could happen to them.
Parents need to know that their kids are getting the shaft.
Kids need to be informed, and they can choose to be a force on their own.

Go up the chain in the most professional manner you can handle.

Good luck!

Edit: Just saw that you don't want to quit. Still think the issue needs escalating, just more delicately.

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i'm just a guy who teaches high school. it is not worthy of media attention.

the principal and TAP ARE the administration. the board would never get involved, as it is the job of the administration to deal with these issues.

other teachers know that there is a [censored]-job going on in the science department, but there is not much they can do.

getting rid of bad teachers is not easy. once one is tenured, there is TONS of red tape to go thorugh to get of them. you can't just fire them, as the union is a big bully.

dcasper70 · #9 06-07-2006, 10:10 PM

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Are you prepared to quit over this issue?

If so, do everything within your legal rights. Take the issue to the school board, and take it to your local newspaper as well. Spread the word that this is happening.

The school board needs to know how your admins are performing.
Other teachers need to know that this could happen to them.
Parents need to know that their kids are getting the shaft.
Kids need to be informed, and they can choose to be a force on their own.

Go up the chain in the most professional manner you can handle.

Good luck!

Edit: Just saw that you don't want to quit. Still think the issue needs escalating, just more delicately.

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i'm just a guy who teaches high school. it is not worthy of media attention.

the principal and TAP ARE the administration. the board would never get involved, as it is the job of the administration to deal with these issues.

other teachers know that there is a [censored]-job going on in the science department, but there is not much they can do.

getting rid of bad teachers is not easy. once one is tenured, there is TONS of red tape to go thorugh to get of them. you can't just fire them, as the union is a big bully.

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Once those schedules get set, how much do they change in the following years? How badly do the other 2 teachers need to perform in order for you to pass them next year? How about the year after that? Once they get 3 years in those classes, where do you stand?

Hey, I don't care if you teach the freshman class for the next 10 years. But if you stand up for what you believe, you can teach your students a more valuable lesson.

Sorry, tough deal...good luck.

hyde · #10 06-07-2006, 09:33 PM

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Are you prepared to quit over this issue?

If so, do everything within your legal rights. Take the issue to the school board, and take it to your local newspaper as well. Spread the word that this is happening.

The school board needs to know how your admins are performing.
Other teachers need to know that this could happen to them.
Parents need to know that their kids are getting the shaft.
Kids need to be informed, and they can choose to be a force on their own.

Go up the chain in the most professional manner you can handle.

Good luck!

Edit: Just saw that you don't want to quit. Still think the issue needs escalating, just more delicately.

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best answer dcasper.
I have been on the school board, wife was a teacher, I had three kids in the system, I coached, my neighbor was the superintendent and my raquetball partner.
I saw it all. From allsides.
And the answer is you are screwed. Probably. There is a nasty beaurocracy in school systems.
It is easy for ineffective teachers to hide as it is nearly impossible to fire one, it is easy for petty personal agendas to be advanced by those teachers who advance to administration, where a decent teacher becomes an ineffective leader. and tenured. jand damned near unaccountable.
My first move would be to meet withthe superintendant and let him know his students were going to suffer and why. Ask him if there is any recourse.
And it is war. I would not be above enlisting students and parents. If my kid were up for AP physics, I would want to know why you weren't teaching it. And I'd request answers in writing from all involved, including the school board.
NOw the other teachers may not like you for this, but F them, they were trying to screw you.
Hell, make the teacher that cries CRY.
When I was on the wchool board we had a teacher that cries apply for assistant principal at the Jr. High. that is primarily a discipline position, and it was in talking with the students that she cried. Totally unqualified for the position. Fortunately enough of us knew the stories.
But I digress, it was a frustrating era.
Good luck.
trip report please.

hyde