"Official" Live at the Bike thread (5/26) (10-20NL)

[theman]

small/shorthanded games?...

as a pro cash game player, i've benefited a lot from watching your show and was curious if either of you (Bart or Dave) had any tips/advice on playing short-handed nlhe...???

also, would there ever been possibility of doing a short-handed show specifically? ...like say have a short-handed game every Wed. night or something like that to show how the game plays differently.....probably not eh? ...but just curious...

-The Man

[Jake M.]

How much value is there in raising 50% of the pots if you are Corporation Mike? I understand that it is a tight table but its not a tournament, you really dont need to "accumulate" chips to move onto later stages. This is why I think Mike would be a really good tourament player. The problem I have with him raising so much is if someone re-raises him preflop and he lets it go or if he ends up losing a monster pot because he was goofing around with like Q8 offsuit and flops trips against a boat, wouldnt it almost seems like negative EV in the long run? Any math-related or physcology-related reply's would be greatly appreciated.

[stlhoc_1]

hey guys me and a buddy have a bet going about what is the complete average starting hand that someone can have. I say that it's the computer hand, Q7o, he says it's J7o...settle this for us!

stl tony

[po-Jay-to]

Q7o is the median starting hand in Hold'em

[po-Jay-to]

For a russian accent rant, see Rounders. John Malkovich can provide it.

[easternbloc]

it always makes me laugh when bartuch talk about how seldomly they have made quads and straight flushes in their life . . . tonight playing about 1.5 hours of low stakes omaha tournies I have already made quads 4 times and one straight flush

[Photoc]

Woohoo, stream crash and ain't combing back.

[cbloom]

Ugh, stream sucks tonight.

[crackhead]

nice way to play KK to lose a big pot.... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[po-Jay-to]

The nice thing about hold'em is that there are only several starting hand percentages that are possible.

These are approximate and there are others:

Pair over Pair 80/20 4:1
Dominated (e.g. AK vs AJ) 75/25 3:1
Two Overs vs Two Unders 70/30 2:1
One Over vs Pair(A8 vs KK) 67/33 2:1
One over-One Under (A9 vs K8) 60/40 3:2
Tweener (AT vs KJ) 65/35

and the really bad situation for the dog
One under (AA vs AQ) 93/7 13:1