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Old 04-12-2006, 02:27 AM
Bakes Bakes is offline
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Default AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

About 34 left, so I have an average stack. No reads on the villain, I just moved to this table a short while ago.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t2755)
UTG+1 (t3965)
MP1 (t6055)
MP2 (t6440)
Hero (t7915)
CO (t13312)
Button (t13914)
SB (t7010)
BB (t8125)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>

Hero shoves or calls?
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

Folding obviously isn't an option, but calling isn't really a viable option either in my opinion... I've faced similar situations and honestly, I have just shoved, and run into AA usually... I guess calling is your best option?
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

I'd see a flop since you have position. That's where the tough part of the hand comes into play.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

given this tournaments and what ive seen from reraises id just shove. people do this with 88,99,a10,aj,aq. its absurd, just gamble, heck,a lot of his range you have him dominated.
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

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given this tournaments and what ive seen from reraises id just shove. people do this with 88,99,a10,aj,aq. its absurd, just gamble, heck,a lot of his range you have him dominated.

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sounds good to me.

part of the problem with not pushing preflop will be a complete inability to bluff the flop if he cbets. if you call the raise to 1600, the pot will be 3500ish with each of you having about 5400 behind. assuming villain will cbet almost any board, after he cbets he'll have something like 3500 left and a pot of 5500. lets say the flop comes Q94 and he's got TT or 88, you probably still can't get him to fold his middle pair when it would be 3500 to call in a pot of over 12k.

so i push preflop to avoid a postflop mess and hope this guy is one of the many donks who will pull this kind of move with a lot of hands worse than QQ in a 180.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:45 AM
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I'd see a flop since you have position. That's where the tough part of the hand comes into play.

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Assume that postflop skill doesn't make a difference in my preflop decision.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

Push. If he has AA then get high and watch reruns of Double Dare to console yourself.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:50 AM
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Push. If he has AA then get high and watch reruns of Double Dare to console yourself.

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Hey, getting high while watching reruns of Double Dare is my bit!

Anyway, I push in this tournament (and similar low buyin donktacular fields) for the same reasons FGators does. I may shove in higher buyin fields, too, though I don't object horribly to seeing a flop with position here.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: AKs preflop decision in a Stars 20 180

i shove since i want to win this thing not make 18th
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:59 AM
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i shove since i want to win this thing not make 18th

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Could you please explain why shoving is superior to calling from a $EV standpoint?
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