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Old 03-03-2006, 12:33 AM
SeriousStudent SeriousStudent is offline
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Default Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Nam looks almost exactly like Tuan.

18 left. Next increase in the money is with 12 left. I have about 140k with an average stack of a little less than 300K. I don't consider myself as much of an expert, certainly compared to many of the posters on this board, but my strategy for better or worse was:

Play my normal game except, as this tournament has such a high fraction of named pros, and there is at least one on each table, avoid pots with the pros, but every few hours when

One Pro has entered the pot, preferably from EP
I'm in position on or near button
I have a stack of 25 or more BBs and the Pro covers me
I have a speculative hand that the pro would not expect me to call with
No aggressive players in the blinds

to go ahead and smooth call.

This was working extremely well for me and I won some big pots this way when I hit the flop, so I decided to employ the strategy again the next time I had an opportunity.

With blinds/antes 2500/5000/500 ,6 handed, Nam raised to 15K in the cut off. He had 350K and was raising relatively frequently pre flop but with no hands shown down, so I put him on a range of Ace any, any pair, and any two high cards. I looked down to find KhTh and smooth called.

Blinds folded.

Flop Ah8h3d, pot 40,500.

Nam checks.

I have 125k left.

My move?
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Does he always make c-bets?

How has he acted before when raised and he's in the flop with no position?
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Good questions but I've only been at the table for 10 hands, never played with him before, and he never acted post flop on any hand.
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

A guy that aggressive not betting that flop feels like a trap so I'd take the free card. Second choice would be a bet of 30k which allows you to rep the A in case he has a mid pair and is inclined to lay it down to your A.
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

I would check, as we hate getting raised off our hand. I may be willing to put some chips in with a king or a ten as well.
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Old 03-03-2006, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

I'm checking and re-evaluating on the turn. I played with Nam in LA and didn't find him to be all that aggressive. He had Lindgren and Mizrachi (Eric, not Mike or Robert) on his left though and a slightly below average stack, so that may have kept him under control.

When I did see him play aggressively he seemed to like to be over-aggressive with weak holdings/air. I never saw him slowplay a made hand. Depending on the turn card and action, I may even consider raising him on the turn, but I'm going to wait and see the card and how he reacts first.

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Old 03-03-2006, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

I'd definitely lean towards checking but as always in such MTT hand questions, I like to know more details, although itd be unlikely to change my decision.
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Well, checking may have been the best line, but my thinking was

If he had 2 pair he would have checked
If he had a pair less than an ace he would bet
If he had nothing he would check
If he had an ace small he would bet
If he had an ace large he would check

My thinking:

I desperately wanted to accumulate more chips. 6 handed with 2K chips eaten up every hand is scary when you are the smallest stack at the table
I had been lucky most of the times I employed my "pro" strategy
If another heart came, I wouldn't get many more chips from him
He may have missed the flop altogether and a 2/3 pot sized bet would win it right there

So I decided to bet 30K.

After thinking for a bit, he calls.

Turn card is 6s. Pot is now 100,500.

Nam checks.

I have 95k left.

My move?
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

So how did this hand end?
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

SS,

Sometimes I will bet the flop, sometimes check. Based on the action so far, I would shove it in on the turn.
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