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Old 09-15-2007, 06:47 PM
Damani311 Damani311 is offline
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Default 25NL Just dump the overpair? On what street?

You get that feeling you're being hit over the head by a bigger pair, but you still want to call down. What wrong here, what clue should I have caught (the fact that it's ten handed mean the OverPair is no good alone)? No reads....maybe just fold before flop? I don't know!!!!!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $25.60
BB: $5.70
UTG: $25.45
UTG+1: $22.70
MP1: $23.90
MP2: $26.85
MP3: $56.30
CO: $21.45
BTN: $27.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.15, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, UTG+1 calls $3.00, MP3 folds

Turn: ($10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $3.00</font>, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $6.00</font>, Hero ????
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

I just keep calling I think.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

Probably just call also, That is such a gross bet by villian on turn.

Is this guy a reg? If so, I would def call down to see his line, will come in handy in the future.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

In the future, have a plan for your hand. Once you put in 10% of your stack you are at the commitment threshold. Once you put in 30%, you should be committed. Were you committed when you called the turn bet? If so, then call the river.

I think you are behind in this hand. It might be worth a call if you think he would play AK like this. If he doesn't, i think you are toast

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

282 games 0.005 secs 56,400 games/sec

Board: 2c 7d 8s 7h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.128% 51.06% 01.06% 144 3.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.872% 46.81% 01.06% 132 3.00 { TT }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

186 games 0.005 secs 37,200 games/sec

Board: 2c 7d 8s 7h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 79.032% 77.42% 01.61% 144 3.00 { 99+ }
Hand 1: 20.968% 19.35% 01.61% 36 3.00 { TT }
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

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In the future, have a plan for your hand. Once you put in 10% of your stack you are at the commitment threshold. Once you put in 30%, you should be committed. Were you committed when you called the turn bet? If so, then call the river.

I think you are behind in this hand. It might be worth a call if you think he would play AK like this. If he doesn't, i think you are toast

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

282 games 0.005 secs 56,400 games/sec

Board: 2c 7d 8s 7h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.128% 51.06% 01.06% 144 3.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.872% 46.81% 01.06% 132 3.00 { TT }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

186 games 0.005 secs 37,200 games/sec

Board: 2c 7d 8s 7h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 79.032% 77.42% 01.61% 144 3.00 { 99+ }
Hand 1: 20.968% 19.35% 01.61% 36 3.00 { TT }

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this 10% stuff sounds ridiculous and the 30% is way too low imo also.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

I dont like flop bet. I would check/call or check/raise the flop.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

I 3 bet preflop, thats just me tho i have issues.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

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I 3 bet preflop, thats just me tho i have issues.

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Why 3-bet? If villain calls you are OOP and I dont like to play big pots out of position.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:21 PM
justscott justscott is offline
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

On that board he beats 99 and AK, calling all the way thru seems -ev to me.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:16 PM
Damani311 Damani311 is offline
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Default Re: Just dump the overpair? On what street?

nice , lots of completely different answers

I guess that's what makes poker so challenging, huh?
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