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Old 06-25-2007, 07:13 AM
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I have been thinking a lot about how to play AK best in position when you raise preflop and get called and flop nothing. A few months ago I cbet it 100% figuring that I have the best hand a lot and have good equity to make TPTK vs smaller pairs and the slight possibility of someone folding an underpair or bottom pair type hand made it seem very very +ev but I have spoken with a highly regarded HSNLer who has suggested that I start checking in these types of spots for a few reasons:

a) yes, you may have the best hand but with my image, people will NEVER fold a better hand (e.g. a pair)
b) I can't really call a check-raise with no pair so this opens the door for me to put in a cbet and get blown off the best hand vs checkraise (semi)bluffs
c) your hand looks very weak when you check behind the flop so vs the right players on the right boards I can snap off turn/river bluff(s)

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These are all valid points but when I think about sklansky's fundamental theory of poker which goes something like

if you have the best hand you should bet

with that said, if I expect my opponents are defending their blinds light and only make a pair 33% of the time on the flop and rarely have pocketpairs (since most people reraise those) doesn't betting 66% of the time (or more) make better sense than checking?
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

I personally think you should play every hand the exact same way, no matter who your opponents are, giving no regard to their current perception of you, or flop texture.

If you make up a chart on the optimal strategy and follow it without ever devitating.. you can always make sure you are playing optimally.

Maybe Sklansky has put one in his book like in the index??
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

this post is nothing short of groundbreaking.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:40 AM
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this post is nothing short of groundbreaking.

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Grims new strategy with AK in position will change poker forever.

Looks like AQ isn't his patented hand anymore.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

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this post is nothing short of groundbreaking.

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Grims new strategy with AK in position will change poker forever.

Looks like AQ isn't his patented hand anymore.

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Grim is actually leveling us and is going to implement this strategy with AQ instead.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

This thread has almost as much thought provoking content as this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cpIv_jVU78
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

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This thread has almost as much thought provoking content as this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cpIv_jVU78

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lolololo
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

you posting that link just cost me an hour of my life as i couldnt help watching most of the UW vids.
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

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These are all valid points but when I think about sklansky's fundamental theory of poker which goes something like

if you have the best hand you should bet


[/ QUOTE ]a non playing uNL player is about to correct you.

that's not what the FToP says. it says when you play a hand the same way as if you knew the player's hand, you profit. so if you know your opponent has nothing but also know that he's prone to c-r you when he doesn't believe you, then you should check behind, or at least reraise his c-r.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: thoughts on cbetting AK in position

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