Our PS winrates

[Mandor_TFL]

Specifically comparing 3/6 to 5/10. I myself have certainly run well at 3/6 getting 2bb/100. But am running -1.5bb/100 over a smaller sample size at 5/10. While I can tell the competition is somewhat stronger at 5/10 I can not help but feel that I am only a marginal winner there who got some bad beats in the massive pots. Any other thoughts? Im beginning to think I should just stay at 3/6 for my mental health at least. Do other people here have strong sustained success at 5/10? I play a 24/17 style for what its worth, varying based on the table between 22/16 and 27/20.

[johnnyrocket]

variance, this is real obvious, surprised u even need to post it, play for a long amount of time then check on stats.

[timoK]

what is long?

people say: play 10k hands than post you stats her for review

others say: play 100k to eliminate swings...

I will post some datamined charts and i would really like to discuss:
"if you can beat the game"

[sethypooh21]

[ QUOTE ]
Specifically comparing 3/6 to 5/10. I myself have certainly run well at 3/6 getting 2bb/100. But am running -1.5bb/100 over a smaller sample size at 5/10. While I can tell the competition is somewhat stronger at 5/10 I can not help but feel that I am only a marginal winner there who got some bad beats in the massive pots. Any other thoughts? Im beginning to think I should just stay at 3/6 for my mental health at least. Do other people here have strong sustained success at 5/10? I play a 24/17 style for what its worth, varying based on the table between 22/16 and 27/20.

[/ QUOTE ]In the past, I've found the psychological difference between 3/6 and 5/10 pretty daunting - is it possible that at 5/10 it is more difficult for you to see the chips as merely betting units?

[milesdyson]

My winrate at 5/10 is about 1 over 60k hands. It was 2.2 over 35k. If I always played my best I'm pretty sure I could be at 2.5 or so. It is amazing how many pretty large mistakes I make because I'm either not focusing or because I'm tilting. I forget preflop action a couple times per 1k hands and end up donking AJ on like Q42 into a 3-bettor, or I 3-bet bluff the river or something. Really big mistakes, yet I'm still at 1.

[Mandor_TFL]

Perhaps I should define my question a little better, is the increased variance at 5/10 worth it. As I have seen a lot of people talk about how badly they run at 5/10 but rarely so at 3/6.

Perhaps I only ask this because I have not had the 100BB upswing to make up for the downswings. As always I accept the variance as being the most likely culprit, but it does seem like many of the posters here have had issues at 5/10 with dramatic downswings that are not seen in 3/6.

[timoK]

I see two people in this threat:

one is running at -1BB/100 at 3-6 for like 40k hands
one is running at -0.2 BB/100 at 5-10 for like 30k hands
sadly one of both is me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

one of the most feared people out of the stars regular threat is running at -0.7BB/100 at 5-10 for 150k hands

And I always promote my opinion the nobody can beat multitabling stars (only way to play several 10k hands within a reasonable timeframe) low limit (up to 5-10) since the partypoker close from more than 1BB.

but prove me wrong and I will buy you a beer at WSOP in june in vegas

[chezlaw]

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I see two people in this threat:

one is running at -1BB/100 at 3-6 for like 40k hands
one is running at -0.2 BB/100 at 5-10 for like 30k hands
sadly one of both is me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

one of the most feared people out of the stars regular threat is running at -0.7BB/100 at 5-10 for 150k hands

And I always promote my opinion the nobody can beat multitabling stars (only way to play several 10k hands within a reasonable timeframe) low limit (up to 5-10) since the partypoker close from more than 1BB.

but prove me wrong and I will buy you a beer at WSOP in june in vegas

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I'm running at ~-0.6BB/100 this year [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

but been multi-tabling carelessly at times and playing so bad postflop that I don't believe the game can't be beaten fairly easily by anyone who plays well and makes a half-decent stab at table selection (even me).

chez

[binions]

[ QUOTE ]
what is long?

people say: play 10k hands than post you stats her for review

others say: play 100k to eliminate swings...

I will post some datamined charts and i would really like to discuss:
"if you can beat the game"

[/ QUOTE ]

You need 30,000 hands at a level before knowing your general winrate, and 100,000 hands at a level before knowing your specific winrate.

[BrassMonkey]

I'm at 1.21 BB/100 over 32,000 hands of 3/6 since January at Stars, but I don't know if that's a significant enough sample size. And, as I've said before, 5/10 has wrecked me up. I think I've gotten better, though, and wouldn't mind taking another stab at it.

I don't know how you guys play so many hands so fast. I two-table 3/6, get 1000 hands in (with good table selection), and am totally beat/tired of poker.