Ben Roberts Full Tilt Article

[Joey Joe Joe]

Good old Ben Roberts:

Roberts article

Some beautiful tidbits:

"If you ask me, however, I'll tell you something you won't hear from almost anybody else. Poker is 100% skilful."

"What this shows me is that, over the long haul, luck is not only insignificant when it comes to your results - it's non-existent."

"It takes a true professional to look at poker in this way"


No Ben, it takes a true moron to look at poker in this way.

[nutsflopper]

your a moran

[ryandl]

nutsflopper is a "moron" now go kill yourself.

[Leafs]

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[GiantWalleye]

This topic stayed on track long. "moran" lol [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[tagtastic]

? Ben is right fwiw...

[TheWorstPlayer]

ben is way wrong. just sim it. esp live.

[Bolivia]

Ben is widely considered one of the best NL cash game players in Europe. The first time I met him was about 3 years back, I went out to dinner with he, Antonio Esfandiari, and a few other pros. When we were waiting for our table, Antonio says to me something along the lines that Ben is the best player he knows and I should listen to what he has to say about poker.

Anyway, the best no limit players I know, have had insane consistency in winning when playing live. I'm sure Ben has experienced the same. Def. in poker the edge a good player has is much much bigger in NL limit holdem than any other form of poker, to the point where the fish have practically no shot. Maybe this is where he's deriving his statement from.

I will say one thing tho. When learning to play, I'd much rather go into it with the mindset of poker being 100% skillful, than believing there is any luck in there. This will push you much harder to re-examine your game after losses.

[TimTimSalabim]

He's not denying that there's luck in the short run, just suggesting that a professional look at the issue in a different way. Kind of like the "Sklansky Dollars" thing.

[Boosted J]

You're a complete idiot. I've logged soooooo many hours with Ben Roberts online and LIVE from 10/20 to 50/100...he is definitely one of the top 5 FTP Pros...very very good, and also quite possibly the nicest guy of all the poker world. Ben is very under the radar and not many people know how good he is.