10NL 6MAX - 44 hit set but with flush showing

[nutsboy]

Not enough hands on villain.

Just want to know how you guys will play turn and river. should i bet river here?

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $2.1
BB: $8.25
UTG: $16.80
MP: $10
Hero (CO): $13.35
BTN: $3.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.15, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.45</font>, Hero calls $0.45, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.15, 2 players)
<font color="red">MP bets $0.30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.05</font>, MP calls $1.75

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($5.25, 2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($5.25, 2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

[Mrage]

I think a value bet is good here, I very seriously doubt he's attempting a c/r with a flush (even most LP's won't pass up their last opportunity to get some money in with a flush here) and you have him pretty well beat otherwise. I wouldn't go ape [censored] but maybe make it 2 or 2.50.

[RollTide77]

Am I wrong for folding pocket 4s here out of position to an EP raise with 4 ppl left to act?

[Antinome]

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Am I wrong for folding pocket 4s here out of position to an EP raise with 4 ppl left to act?

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Unless you have reason to believe that one of the two shortstacks back there is going to push- i.e. they shortstack push a lot- I can't see folding this. Bad position and bad relative position don't matter as much with a set, and you'll be dumping without one.

[VPIP100]

I'd make a small valuebet on the river.

I would call preflop here aswell, let people get good odds to see a cheap flop.

[Sir Winalot]

Nicely sized flop raise, me likes. I would lead turn for ~4, I think villain is stacking off with AA/KK and a flush isn't very likely unless he has something like KQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (he raised preflop and the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is on the board).

Rolltide, calling pf is just fine.

[RAHZero]

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Am I wrong for folding pocket 4s here out of position to an EP raise with 4 ppl left to act?

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We're not OOP, we're in the CO, and with full stacks, yes, you should be calling this every time for set value.

[Leviathan101]

I call 44 everytime.

I bet 1/2 pot on river.

[Bonesy]

I think not betting the turn is a mistake. As played, I bet the river for value. Half pot feels right.

[Bail]

I agree w/ most of the posters here. Since the A was the 3-flush card, I would have to peg MP on KQs to be worried here. I think it's more likely that villain has 77-TT. Many players get carried away w/ a mid pp. And seeing all low cards probably made villain think you missed your hand, rather than running full steam into it like you did. I would bet the turn and river.