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Old 11-21-2006, 04:21 AM
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Default JJ river donk against TAGy

29/21/1.7 over 117. In a previous hand I 3 bet heads up from the BB PF, flop came AKx, he called flop and turn and raise/folded a blank looking river.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (10.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero???
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

what hand are you hoping to see?
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

AQs or a worse pocket pair one time in 12? It is a perfect card to bluff if he made it here with those..
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

hm...given the pf and flop action his AK might as well be face up, imo. the only other hand that might cap preflop 3 handed, lead the flop, and not 3bet the flop is TT...?
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

I call.
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

I'd call, but I'm not sure we see bluff here often enough to justify this.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

you're never winning here.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

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He has AK and is correctly value betting - fold
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

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you're never winning here.

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He has AK and is correctly value betting - fold

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I disagree with a river fold. This guy may have a hand like 88,99,TT and figured that hes got a calling hand anywyas might as well bet the scare card. Or he could have a hand like AdQd and is just trying to make a play. I agree the hero's hand sux once the villain bets the river cuz most of the time it will be AK, but I wouldnt fold. Getting 11-1 this is a very easy/profitable crying call IMO.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ river donk against TAGy

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I disagree with a river fold. This guy may have a hand like 88,99,TT and figured that hes got a calling hand anywyas might as well bet the scare card. Or he could have a hand like AdQd and is just trying to make a play. I agree the hero's hand sux once the villain bets the river cuz most of the time it will be AK, but I wouldnt fold."

exactly what I was thinking, crying call time.
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