Did I have too much love for the ladies?

[Daniel Magix]

25NL 6-Max
Blinds .25/.25

Hero: $27.50
UTG2: $14.75
CO (villian): $34
Button: $8.40
SB: $24
BB: 13.70

I was only playing for about 20 minutes at this table, but I thought I had a decent read on villian. Almost every time he entered a pot, he would open for $1 - no fluxuation there. He showed down T7os once, after raising the $1 PF. I also notice his stack go from $24 to $57 and then all the way back down to $28 at one point.

Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero (first to act) calls .25 (I would never limp here unless I was 99% sure a raise was coming), UTG2 calls .25, villian raises to $1 (shocking), Button calls $1, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $4, UTG2 folds, villian raises to $12, Button folds, Hero ???

I'll stop there.
Up until the reraise, my limp/raise plan was working perfectly - villian predictably raise the $1 and I thought I caught the Button in the play as well. I was OOP and would have been content to take it down PF. Any comments are appreciated.

[upstaterick]

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25NL 6-Max
Blinds .25/.25

Hero: $27.50
UTG2: $14.75
CO (villian): $34
Button: $8.40
SB: $24
BB: 13.70

I was only playing for about 20 minutes at this table, but I thought I had a decent read on villian. Almost every time he entered a pot, he would open for $1 - no fluxuation there. He showed down T7os once, after raising the $1 PF. I also notice his stack go from $24 to $57 and then all the way back down to $28 at one point.

Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero (first to act) calls .25 (I would never limp here unless I was 99% sure a raise was coming), UTG2 calls .25, villian raises to $1 (shocking), Button calls $1, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $4, UTG2 folds, villian raises to $12, Button folds, Hero ???

I'll stop there.
Up until the reraise, my limp/raise plan was working perfectly - villian predictably raise the $1 and I thought I caught the Button in the play as well. I was OOP and would have been content to take it down PF. Any comments are appreciated.

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Villian may not like you trying to trump his steal attempt. I would call his raise and then being first to act on the flop, if no A or K comes, go all-in. You are only beat by AA,KK.
I'm new at this so may be bad advice.

[los_toros]

Oops

[nuts]

push?

[Daniel Magix]

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Oops

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Exactly.

[maccamack]

Whenever, I have made this kind of play with QQ - which is definitely towards the foolish end of the spectrum - I have pushed and I have regretted it.

I'm no math guy but I don't think you are getting odds for set -so it's either push or fold.

You have made a pretty strong play at these stakes, you have limped and re-raised which is invariably a pretty strong/very strong hand - villian prolly knows that. Villian has told you to bring it on... I fold because I've been burnt too often.

It's your read though, if villian can do this with <QQ then push.

[crookdimwit]

I don't like the limp. QQ is strong enough to lead out with shorthanded UTG I'd think. I'd bet out early rather than try to get tricky. Your plan might have also misfired if no one raised and suddenly, you got to a flop and saw an A or K. If you led out, you might have gotten a call, not a raise and could more sensibly assess the flop.

As played, I think I push here. At least give yourself the chance at five cards or a fold by villain. Calling might be trouble if A or K is on the flop.

[TheGrifter]

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25NL 6-Max
Blinds .25/.25

Hero: $27.50
UTG2: $14.75
CO (villian): $34
Button: $8.40
SB: $24
BB: 13.70

I was only playing for about 20 minutes at this table, but I thought I had a decent read on villian. Almost every time he entered a pot, he would open for $1 - no fluxuation there. He showed down T7os once, after raising the $1 PF. I also notice his stack go from $24 to $57 and then all the way back down to $28 at one point.

Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero (first to act) calls .25 (I would never limp here unless I was 99% sure a raise was coming), UTG2 calls .25, villian raises to $1 (shocking), Button calls $1, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $4, UTG2 folds, villian raises to $12, Button folds, Hero ???

I'll stop there.
Up until the reraise, my limp/raise plan was working perfectly - villian predictably raise the $1 and I thought I caught the Button in the play as well. I was OOP and would have been content to take it down PF. Any comments are appreciated.

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You've represented Aces with your limp-raise, villain isn't worried about that. Do you need to know more?

[Daniel Magix]

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You have made a pretty strong play at these stakes, you have limped and re-raised which is invariably a pretty strong/very strong hand - villian prolly knows that.

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I guess I didn't give him that much credit. I did push, btw. I guess I thought that if I went this far, I might as well go to the felt with it. If I called, I would have half my nearly stack in there already. I figured his range to be any big Ace or any medium to big pocket pair. I thought I had a lot of his range beat.

I really liked my play up until this point. But this reraise caught me off-guard. I guess I was thinking that a fold was not an option - was I wrong there? Should I have actually folded this given the betting going on? I guess in hindsight, a call and re-evaluation would have been a more careful play (although in this particular case, that T96 rainbow flop would have had me getting it all in there anyway).

It's just tough for a newb like me - it seems a good case can be made for a call, push, or fold.

Call: I can re-evaluate the flop and an A or K will give me a reason to fold.
Push: There are only two possible holdings that I am not ahead of, seems like a good spot to get it all in.
Fold: If he is smart, he saw the strength of my play and is still unafraid. Yikes. Cut my losses at $4.25 and get the hell outta this hand.

[Daniel Magix]

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You've represented Aces with your limp-raise, villain isn't worried about that. Do you need to know more?

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True, it's a little more clear to me now, a day later. But on the other hand, should I always just assume that every player at this small level can recognize the strength of the play I made? I've seen some pretty awful hands being hugely overplayed at this level.