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Old 08-12-2006, 11:22 AM
RacersEdge RacersEdge is offline
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Default Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

Just getting into to NL, this ME FT was the first time I have watched an entire table play for 13 hours straight. I have to say I didn't really see anything that spectacular from AC in this time span. For all the talk from almost every guest pro in the booth about what a fantastic player he is, he seemed to fall into the same mode as the other "worse" players there by getting pushed around by Gold. I didn't really detect any techniques he used to adapt to the table dynamics.

Also, he seemd to get sucked into Gold's bantar the same as everyone else, although maybe he was trying to use it to his advantage more than the other players. But overall if I didn't know he was considered a great NL player, I would never have put him above Wasicka, Binger, etc as far as poker skill goes.

Did he have a bad FT, is 13 hours too short to judge, or is he overrated?
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

Gold used position on him very well. But as far as playing a shortstack goes, I think Allen played terrifically. His cards just wouldn't allow him to get momentum.

Harrington had the exact same problem in 2003. He played brilliantly with a shorstack but just couldn't get the cards. Moneymaker and Farha wouldn't be as popular today had Harrington gotten a little boost from his cards.
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

Well, he didn't win a single race and never really caught a break. I still think he's probably underrated, and one final table experience is not justified reasoning on a players skill.

Ever see the Season 4 WPT Championship? James Van Alstyne...anyone?
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

He sure made a nice call with Ace high.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

Allen was very aggressive, and picked up a lot of pots pre-flop, and post-flop with good continuation bets. A lot of the other players were clearly staying away from him and his post-flop play.

As someone already mentioned, Binger got extremely lucky against Cunningham on a few occasions. Especially the AQ vs. A10 hand, if Cunningham had won that, who knows what would've happened.

If you noticed, a lot of the other players did well because of other players' mistakes. For example, Wasicka got lucky when Binger stupidly called the all in with A9 and dumped the chips he stole from Cunningham to Wasicka. Similarly, Richard Lee was a huge donk and lost his huge stack with JJ. Cunningham, unfortunnately, was just never the beneficiary on those major occasions.

Bad cards. You could tell.
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Old 08-12-2006, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

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He sure made a nice call with Ace high.

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He made a nice fold against KQd.

I think what's over rated is not AC, but the "huge" edge that pros have vs. the effect of luck.
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Old 08-12-2006, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

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He sure made a nice call with Ace high.

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He made a nice fold against KQd.

I think what's over rated is not AC, but the "huge" edge that pros have vs. the effect of luck.

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i agree with this
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Old 08-12-2006, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

The deck hit Gold harder than cocks hit Paris Hilton.

If AC's cards were even half as good as Gold's, he'd at minimum get heads up against him and would probably beat him based on sheer skill.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

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He made a nice fold against KQd.



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There's another thread about this hand, so no reason to get into it here, but you've seriously got to be kidding. Sounds like the AC haters here are being seriously results oriented, without taking into account the ranges that he must have put his opponents on. For the record, I think he is the best player at that table, and it's not close.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Allen Cunningham\'s FT Performance

Not only the best player at the table but in the top 10 players in the world PERIOD.
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