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Old 03-23-2006, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: PS 20/180: Fishhooks on the first hand

One other thing I'll throw out there.

If I happened to check behind on the turn, I'd push the river.
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: PS 20/180: Fishhooks on the first hand

Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:07 PM
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Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?

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Yeah. I overbet rivers alot when I have super strong hands. People always seem to think I'm weak and will call down with almost any piece. Just a personal thing though.
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:08 PM
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Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?

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Yeah. I overbet rivers alot when I have super strong hands. People always seem to think I'm weak and will call down with almost any piece. Just a personal thing though.

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Interesting. I usually go for the value bet. I guess if you push 10 times and get called once, that's probably more +cEV in the long run than if you value bet 10 times and get called 5 times.
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:11 PM
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Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?

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Yeah. I overbet rivers alot when I have super strong hands. People always seem to think I'm weak and will call down with almost any piece. Just a personal thing though.

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Interesting. I usually go for the value bet. I guess if you push 10 times and get called once, that's probably more +cEV in the long run than if you value bet 10 times and get called 5 times.

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A really good example of this happened to be about a week ago in the 55K.

We're just after the break, I've got 20K+ and so does one oher stack. I raise PF w/ KQo and the flop comes K-K-Q.

He checks, I bet the flop he calls.
He checks, I check behind planning on trapping him
He bets into me, I push for like...a zillion bb's and he insta-calls w/ AQ.
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Old 03-23-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: PS 20/180: Fishhooks on the first hand

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Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?

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Yeah. I overbet rivers alot when I have super strong hands. People always seem to think I'm weak and will call down with almost any piece. Just a personal thing though.

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I've started doing this as well. Bizarre how often it works. On the other hand I'm also the guy doing the calling. "No way he overbets like that if he has a real hand! Oh, the nuts. GG."
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:07 PM
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Really? You think a push > value bet on the river? You figure anything he'll call a value bet, he'll call a push with?

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Yeah. I overbet rivers alot when I have super strong hands. People always seem to think I'm weak and will call down with almost any piece. Just a personal thing though.

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I've started doing this as well. Bizarre how often it works. On the other hand I'm also the guy doing the calling. "No way he overbets like that if he has a real hand! Oh, the nuts. GG."

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