1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

[whyzze]

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I guess I should rephrase my comment. Why are we calling the flop? And how do we play if a Q,T,8, or spade falls on the turn?

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if you get it in on this flop, best case scenario you are flip. The rest you are drawing to 4, or 2 outs.

[Somekid]

I see, I'm used to playing donks who will call a shove here with a lone spade.

[whyzze]

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I see, I'm used to playing donks who will call a shove here with a lone spade.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.707% 55.35% 00.35% 548 3.50 { Jd7h }
Hand 1: 44.293% 43.94% 00.35% 435 3.50 { As8d }

[tmcdmck]

is taking i flip on the flop so bad? we are not too sure where we are, so it might be quite nice to either take down the pot there and then or flip. not sure if this is a good suggestion though, as there probably is more value to be had.

[whyzze]

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is taking i flip on the flop so bad? we are not too sure where we are, so it might be quite nice to either take down the pot there and then or flip. not sure if this is a good suggestion though, as there probably is more value to be had.

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Well tbh, its not quite a flip, we are just a little better than that. Only problem is its a flip a best. This hand is SA/WB for getting the cash in. Letting the turn blank shoots our equity through the roof and gets more value.

[mattak]

So, we are assuming that we have no fold equity with a shove? If I am the villain in this hand I check raise with a wide range but I am not calling the shove with out a made hand or maybe a monster draw

[bigbluffben]

I don't see any problem with just calling the flop and shoving a non spade/non 8 10 turn... atleast our fold/hand equity would be higher and if he folds he now thinks we're tricky