AC: The Economics of Revolutions

[PoBoy321]

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Yes. I would certainly contribute to a charity that took care of local orphaned children. Wouldn't you?

Will

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Do you currently devote time or money to help the orphaned? If not, what would change under AC?

[hmkpoker]

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Governments arose for particular reasons which are no longer applicable. Hence, if we could manage to get rid of them (without restoring the conditions that led to their emergence, which I am not at all sure is possible), they would not appear again.

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Boro, can you link to the post you made a while back where you explained why this is the case?

[WillMagic]

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Yes. I would certainly contribute to a charity that took care of local orphaned children. Wouldn't you?

Will

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Do you currently devote time or money to help the orphaned?

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No.

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If not, what would change under AC?

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The fact that government wouldn't be doing it already. Government does the job right now, which is great, but as with many things it does it at twice the price and half the effectiveness.

Will

[cambraceres]

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But we should make more allowance for the current state of things, since each and every sane being is a perfect little personal capitalist.

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I like the way you frame the argument, but there is no genetic or behavioral basis for this particular statement... in fact it's one of the most commonly used arguments for capitalism that is really wrong and relies on most peoples' ignorance of cultures and modes of production that are not capitalist. If everyone was 'naturally' a capitalist we wouldn't have to impose it by force on indigenous populations.

NT

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We don't force it on them, it is natural and had been damged by despotic rule. Let them go to anarchy, and still capitalism will emerge. Capitalism is the economics of the free, and other system is capitalism with a smaller freedom value

[moorobot]

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Have you ever read Ulster or rational choice theory? I think some of it is garbage because assuming people make rational choices about their actions gives them credit for clearly understanding and thinking about them. 'Rational emotional choices' is problematic too but less so.

I think you'll find that if you qualify statements about people with: 'with what they can see about the present state of the universe' you can say that everyone in every situation always makes rational choices.

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[moorobot]

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bison,

You can't win an argument against someone's imagination using facts. Give up.

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You've confused facts with assertions, flawed logic, handwaving, and non sequitors. It's ok though, statists are often confused about such things.

[/ QUOTE ] This coming from the man who believes that everything wrong with the world is due to government and everything that is right with it is due to markets, and who refuses to see a single potential problem with his wished for/imagined future.

[moorobot]

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I'm talking about the crystal ball that tells you exactly what anarcho-capitalist society will be like post-revolution, despite the fact that nearly every revolutionary in history has been very surprised by what happened when they actually pulled it off.


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Nobody plans exactly what is going to happen in anarchocapitalism, hence a decentralized economy.


[/ QUOTE ] To an ACer, unregulated capitalism leads to decentralization. To history, unregulated capitalism leads to centralization and regulated capitalism.

[moorobot]

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I can tell you've been reading your Rothbard.

Dude, I haven't read a word. I just smoked a little more pot.


[/ QUOTE ] Essentially the same, except Rothbard is worse for your memory.

[pvn]

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And why do they have these skirmishes? Because the state has excluded them from peaceful dispute resolution processes.

Hahahahaha.

Which gives me a chance to post another hypothetical.

A woman 28 year old woman with a 10 year old kid kills someone. She's obviously incarcerated.

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Obviously?

[vulturesrow]

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Rothbard land is not lawless.

How do you punish the breaking of laws without a proto-state? Or do you always just leave it up to the aggrieved parties to settle the matter by whatever means they deem necessary?

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Why don't you try reading a book?

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Here is one for you.

Locke: Two Treatises of Government