Apathy or unquenched desire?

[kleath]

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ICM clearly shows that it is sometimes best not to make the decision that gives you the best chance of winning the tournament.

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ICM is also not the end all be all of equity calculation, even in SNGs there are situations where you should be ignoring ICM(not even that uncommon), I think if someone REALLY did a lot of work in the field of math for MTTs it would be shown ICM doesnt apply nearly as much as most think it does. cEV is just a crutch used in general, I dont think anyone really has a full grasp of what various stack sizes are worth though I think some people have an idea, there are so many variables its a truly interesting problem. Good discussion going on in this thread, I like it.

Also I think it was a really REALLY low class move for nath to post dbs, though I agree somewhat with his underlying point relating to tournament equity.