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Old 11-26-2007, 02:02 PM
evasive evasive is offline
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I'd like the blind level clearly visible at a glance on the top bar when the tables are small - particularly when the antes start kicking in,
Hands per level and stop people loading 10 in advance please
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: 1-table S&Gs - your feedback requested

It has been my assumption for a couple years now that there is an unwritten agreement among poker sites to have the same approximate rake at different levels of SNGs. That is the only explanation for the lack of a rake war over the past 2-3 years.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:28 PM
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I really think the rake issue is huge, as others have pointed out. I also think it is more important for your marketing to the casual player to limit STT rake than cash game rake. The rake is right there every time you sign up for a STT, you can't avoid it. A casual player would have to spend some time to find the rake difference between two sites in a cash game. In an STT is is obvious from the start.

I also think it is time to admit that the scaling of the rake as you move to higher level tournaments makes no sense at all. It can't possibly cost Stars much more to run a $255 than a $15+1. I would be shocked if someone from marketing was willing to even attempt a defense of that structure, and 'everyone else does it' isn't a defense. More games running at higher levels means fewer pros at lower stakes, which means that the casual player sticks around longer and is more competitive.

As to the blind levels, I would prefer the Party structure, but the question pales next to the rake issue.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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ENOUGH about rakes and antes. More imagination please.

Voice off more about changing to hand-based over time-based.

And did any of you even read the comment about new payout structures (in addition to the old ones): i.e. 2.20 buyin, 6-5-4-3-2 payout.

I repeat, NO MORE posts about rakes and antes.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:58 PM
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i dont think people on this site are going to be too interested in the bodog structure.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:59 PM
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i havent read responses but i am shocked that good players want to get rid of the ante. if anything make them start either and make them bigger.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Keep antes, lower rake.

The 5 payouts for 10 players suggestion is gross.

I like the hand based blind levels much better. Stallers are bad for the game.

Edit- Oh, and plz put SOMETHING between 100/200 25 and 200/400. 150/300 25 would be splendid
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:04 PM
George Lind III George Lind III is offline
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Default Re: 1-table S&Gs - your feedback requested

[ QUOTE ]
ENOUGH about rakes and antes. More imagination please.

Voice off more about changing to hand-based over time-based.

And did any of you even read the comment about new payout structures (in addition to the old ones): i.e. 2.20 buyin, 6-5-4-3-2 payout.

I repeat, NO MORE posts about rakes and antes.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doesn't telling people what to complain about and what not to complain about kind of defeat the purpose of a feedback thread? It is pretty obvious that rake is probably the biggest issue concerning the long-term viability of the high-stakes sngs.

Another thing that would happen with lower rake is that if more pros are regularly filling up the higher sngs is that more random fish will want to play them too since they fill up fast. The random high roller who is steaming doesn't want to sign up for a 2k right now because, guess what, they never go!
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 1-table S&Gs - your feedback requested

Im not saying replace the normal SNG structure. I'm merely saying that, PokerSTars, being as big as it is, should give players more options. 6-5-4-3-2 is just another option (one I personally like, and many others do as well. good for beginners. brings in more players.)
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:29 PM
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- 10xBB SNGs (Everyone starts with 10xBB)
- Max 10% rake
- No ante
- 5-max SNGs
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