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Old 11-24-2007, 09:54 PM
Bicycles_Biatch Bicycles_Biatch is offline
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blowing .08-.10 is 5-6 beers in an hour in most guys (180-200 lbs). If a person isn't impaired at all 5-6 beers downed in a hour, they are probably an alcoholic. Most people are significantly impaired 5-6 down, but if someone isn't, and that someone is driving, that person is heading down a dark road.

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You stumbled across another interesting point about why the laws are effed: people who are regular drinkers function "normal" at much higher BAC thresholds than those who are light/occasional drinkers. Take the guy I know who 8+ hours after his last drink was still somehow >.03, despite not being hungover or drunk. From what I've discerned he probably has a problem with the bottle but deliberately never, ever drives after drinking anymore to avoid putting himself or others at risk or to get popped again.

As for the "dark road" where they are over the legal limit but can function just fine, are you suggesting that people be punished for having a problem with alcohol? That's sort of adding insult to injury, isn't it?

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Ugh, Tuq you are retarded. There is a huge difference between feeling impaired and being impaired. No human being can blow a .08 and not be measurably impaired despite how totally in control they feel.

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You do realize that the legal limit in ALL states, and still in some is 0.10. There is NO impeirical scientific evidence that shows a driver is worse of from 0.10 to 0.08... this is just an arbitrary number that MADD somehow got pushed through congress.

Currently, several states (including CA) have pending legislation to decrease the amount to 0.05...

For those of you who live in states with great public transportation, I envy you. In CA and other states of MASS urban sprawl, it's pretty standard to have a couple drinks with dinner and drive home SAFELY.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:06 PM
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For those of you who live in states with great public transportation, I envy you. In CA and other states of MASS urban sprawl, it's pretty standard to have a couple drinks with dinner and drive home SAFELY.

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2 drinks over 1 hour = 0.02. How does this equal instant arrest by OUTACONTROL cops and crazy MADD mothers?
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:10 PM
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For those of you who live in states with great public transportation, I envy you. In CA and other states of MASS urban sprawl, it's pretty standard to have a couple drinks with dinner and drive home SAFELY.

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2 drinks over 1 hour = 0.02. How does this equal instant arrest by OUTACONTROL cops and crazy MADD mothers?

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I just sat through two days of EXPERT testimony. If you have two drinks in an hour for more than one hour (i.e. 4 drinks in two hours)... you CAN blow above the legal limit.

Even more disturbing is that in CA if you blow over 0.01... and the officer feels you are impaired (even if it's just due to fatigue, other physical issues, or just stupidity), you can be charged with a DUI. At that point it becomes an expensive burden of proof with your opinion being argued in court against the officers.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:14 PM
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For those of you who live in states with great public transportation, I envy you. In CA and other states of MASS urban sprawl, it's pretty standard to have a couple drinks with dinner and drive home SAFELY.

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2 drinks over 1 hour = 0.02. How does this equal instant arrest by OUTACONTROL cops and crazy MADD mothers?

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I just sat through two days of EXPERT testimony. If you have two drinks in an hour for more than one hour (i.e. 4 drinks in two hours)... you CAN blow above the legal limit.

Even more disturbing is that in CA if you blow over 0.01... and the officer feels you are impaired (even if it's just due to fatigue, other physical issues, or just stupidity), you can be charged with a DUI. At that point it becomes an expensive burden of proof with your opinion being argued in court against the officers.

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So a couple drinks with dinner = 4?

http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm

4 drinks in 2 hours for a 100lb man gives a .07 BAC. Keep 'em coming. Very few people in this thread actually realize how much it takes to get to .08. Hint: it's not a "couple drinks with dinner"
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:20 PM
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For those of you who live in states with great public transportation, I envy you. In CA and other states of MASS urban sprawl, it's pretty standard to have a couple drinks with dinner and drive home SAFELY.

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2 drinks over 1 hour = 0.02. How does this equal instant arrest by OUTACONTROL cops and crazy MADD mothers?

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I just sat through two days of EXPERT testimony. If you have two drinks in an hour for more than one hour (i.e. 4 drinks in two hours)... you CAN blow above the legal limit.

Even more disturbing is that in CA if you blow over 0.01... and the officer feels you are impaired (even if it's just due to fatigue, other physical issues, or just stupidity), you can be charged with a DUI. At that point it becomes an expensive burden of proof with your opinion being argued in court against the officers.

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So a couple drinks with dinner = 4?

http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm

4 drinks in 2 hours for a 100lb man gives a .07 BAC. Keep 'em coming. Very few people in this thread actually realize how much it takes to get to .08. Hint: it's not a "couple drinks with dinner"

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You're right... that internet calculator is much more efficient than my actual life experience and the expert testimony of a triple Doctorate holder that is one of the lead scientists for the LA county sheriffs crime lab.

I had EXACTLY 5 Tanquerey and Tonics from 7 PM - 9:30 PM... went back to work, got busted at 12:12 and blew a 0.09.

During expert testimony it was explained that the body CAN process about two drinks and hour and keep you at a 0.00 BAC... but in many people two drinks an hour are enough to take them to the legal limit of 0.08.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:26 PM
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Wow, I wonder if it is at all possible that your G&T's had perhaps more than a standard amount of gin in each one? No, that'd be crazy.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:30 PM
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Drinking makes my taint thicker imo
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:33 AM
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I had EXACTLY 5 Tanquerey and Tonics from 7 PM - 9:30 PM

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I drink gin and tonics also as my regular drink.
Some places make them stronger than others.
When at a nicer restaurant or bar I suspect that 1 gin-and-tonic would actually be more than 1 drink.

People also need to realize that on those calculators that it's only 12 ounces that is considered 1 beer. Many people might have a 16 or 20 ounce glass or mug but continue to think of it as one drink.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:18 AM
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:15 AM
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OP, good luck and please take this time to learn something that will help in your future life. Don't just waste this time; use it to make yourself a better person.
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