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Old 11-23-2007, 05:20 AM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

This is awful. When facing bad, spewy, lags just wait for a real hand and watch them not adjust and try to push you off it. What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him. If you're going to try to resteal then repop him preflop instead of calling, hitting nothing, and committing your whole stack unimproved. If he won't fold to preflop resteals from the blinds then tighten your OOP 3-bet range slightly and take him to valuetown.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:24 AM
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PF his hand range is basically a stealing range: so let's say Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+.

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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:01 AM
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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.

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Why? ATs, JTs are all hands in his range.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:03 AM
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wow
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:30 AM
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wow

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] uh, where I'm wrong?
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:46 AM
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Why? ATs, JTs are all hands in his range.

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So are K7, K8, K9, KT, KJ, KQ, AK, QT, QJ, AQ according to you. So that's, what? 5-1? So why are you putting him on a draw when his range is dominated by pairs here (again, if we're trusting your read)?
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

fold preflop... this is just really really really bad spew.

Once you make that C/R on the flop and are called, you need to shut down. His range tightens substantially although it may include some draws it is heavily weighted towards obvious pairs. Making the 5$ bet on the turn just gave him money.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high

don't like flop or turn. pf is ok i guess as you can stack him often enough with just aa
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:56 PM
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Ok, so basically i misuse a resteal: if he's a thinking player he will fold a pure/semi bluff, will call with a potential good hand a reraise/shove with his best hands.

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It's NL10, a lot of villians never fold if they have any piece of the flop. If you put him on Ax, Kx on the flop he's either got you outkickered or has a pair, which he isn't going to fold.

Fold preflop is the best play imo
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
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What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him.

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Outspewing is the new outplaying.
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