** New & Improved ** Pokerstars Regulars Thread

[WCGRider]

Well i didn't actually say they were tough to play against, but that they win at good rates. However that said

Nada is tough because i have a lot of hands vs him where he basically just refuses to give up hands in position, and that makes it tough to 3 bet him from the blinds, and he really hates me and doesn't believe any of my raises, so he is willing to fight vs me with ATC.

p0kerboy is willing to make moves at pots when i have a hand range that likely will have trouble calling (I remember a specific hand where i had 44 on a board that was something to the tune of 234J5, where he had raises pf, and then shoved river which puts me in a very difficult spot because obviously an ace is a huge par of his range)

Duff is tough in a different way imo, he just doesn't donk off chips, you aren't really going to play for his stack too often. Hes moved up to nl 200 though now.

[RyanCMU]

Taking this thread in a different direction because it has basically turned into a NL100 gossip ground [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What do you think separates a lot of the winning NL100 regulars from being able to take the next step and become winning regulars at NL200? I know a lot have tried and ended up back at NL100. Please don't answer "they suck."

Some of the reasons I think is that at NL100, I think a lot of us fall into sort of a trap. It's the first level where you can really make significant money multi tabling and the competition for the most part is relatively horrible. So we develop a style that works well multi tabling NL100, however, this style becomes very exploitable as we play better competition.

One thing I have noticed is that a lot of NL100 players, our ranges become heavily weighted towards a specific spectrum in certain situations. And vs observant opponents its very easy for them to take advantage of that and continuously own us. I really won't go into more about this specific topic here, because I think this is one of the things that allows someone who isn't on autopilot at NL100 to really take advantage of all the other TAG regulars and exploit them heavily. SABR42 indirectly touched on this when he earlier int his thread talked about how easy it is to pick on other players at this level and why you are leaving money on the table by not doing so.

Another, thing I have noticed and this goes hand in hand with what I said above, is that lots of regulars at NL100 still practice avoidance, and for a lot of them this is the best thing, since, well they play horrible. However, this is allowing the better players at the level to just bleed them dry by constantly abusing them and they never adjust and play back. Prodigy's comments about avoidance, I think are spot on for the weaker players who can't adjust, yet, still are able to make $$ vs the donks. But again agreeing w/ SABR42, avoidance isn't nessecary since its so easy to just relentlessly pick on and exploit the other regulars.

I know a lot of people are going to read this and say "blah blah blah, I win at 4ptbb/100 and I don't do any of this." Well, think of how much money you are leaving on the table? Why should your WR be satisfactory, when you are leaving so much on the table?

This brings me full circle to my original point about what is separating winning NL100 regs from being winning Nl200 regs...Everyone can play good vs horrible players. It's not hard to learn to extract the maximum vs bad players. You need to learn how to play the other 70% of the game, most of you just play bad, and thats why you will always marginal NL100 winners.

Hopefully, this will get the thread back on track and we can focus more on what certain players are doing well and learning from that to help improve our own games. Instead of just bashing everyone and gossiping like HS girls.

Disclaimer: Yes, I am a NL100 regular. No I am not good at NL Hold em'. However, I do feel as if I am better then every other regular at NL100 on stars. I haven't moved up because my poker situation is unique and my playing style and routine is also very unique and NL hold em' is probably my 3rd best game, however, I am constantly trying to work and improve it.

Also, the two points I touched on, are two very small points in what makes and allows a player to be a winning player at higher levels then NL100, however, I feel as if from reading this thread and from my experience playing, that these two things are two of the biggest things hindering the progress of lots of NL100 players.

[WCGRider]

I dont know about the majority of the people here, but as a 3 ptbb winner at nl 100 over 100k hands, and a 2 ptbb winner over 20k hands at nl 200(nothing i know), my biggest problem is bankroll management. Not in playing higher stakes, but in wanting nice things as a broke college student and being able to "afford" them with my roll, br discipline is fairly important imo.

[RyanCMU]

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I dont know about the majority of the people here, but as a 3 ptbb winner at nl 100 over 100k hands, and a 2 ptbb winner over 20k hands at nl 200(nothing i know), my biggest problem is bankroll management. Not in playing higher stakes, but in wanting nice things as a broke college student and being able to "afford" them with my roll, br discipline is fairly important imo.

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I was speaking from a purely game theory and what we can do palying poker standpoint.

However, I agree that money managment is a very big downfall for tons of players. Moreso I think young players. Its so easy to get caught up in the fact that by "working" and "real world" standards poker provides such an easy source of income for lots of younger people getting into the game, that keeping discipline is probably the number 1 downfall.

[Dadswell]

Today I decided to put a bit of money into Stars after playing party for a good while. I couldn't get that much in there so I had to drop down to 200NL. From what I saw the games were terrible.

Lots of tables with a VPIP < 15, lots of tables full of nits just grinding against each other, why do they play that table without a single person over 15?

I knew there were nits and then I ran into players like futilewar, EurekaKid, bryanboyd, petrodactyl6, etc all who play less than 10% of hands, are they making any money, like who pays these guys off?

Anyway just wondering how long the games have been this bad?

[jack frost]

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Today I decided to put a bit of money into Stars after playing party for a good while. I couldn't get that much in there so I had to drop down to 200NL. From what I saw the games were terrible.

Lots of tables with a VPIP < 15, lots of tables full of nits just grinding against each other, why do they play that table without a single person over 15?

I knew there were nits and then I ran into players like futilewar, EurekaKid, bryanboyd, petrodactyl6, etc all who play less than 10% of hands, are they making any money, like who pays these guys off?

Anyway just wondering how long the games have been this bad?

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Ah petrodactly is pretty good player and his vp$ip is higher than 10. Also I agree that the tables are nitty but there are donks and plenty of them still mixed in @ the tables you just have to know how to look for them. The tables appear nittier becasue there are 6-7 nitty regs at every table now. The other 3 players you named are all very exploitable and easy to beat

[KarlSpakler]

It seems the focus of this thread is on the 100NL and 200NL games. I have been in and out of these levels, as a "regular" over the past 2-3 years.

I am sure many of you already do this, but I find it helpful to occasionally check out the Misc.Stats tab in Pokertracker and see how I am doing against my most frequent opponents. It is rare to find any big surprises one way or the other, but it can help identify who may be giving you problems (amount lost to), and why that may be (lose too many big pots, getting out played, etc.).

I don't have any specific comments on any certain players, just that many of you are very good players.... and yes I make some really terrible plays at times.

[jack frost]

Karl,

I am not putting you down just saying your a tight player. I respect your play and I know you are a winning player my intent was not to drag your name throught the mud and I hope
I didn't offend you, you have alway's been a pleasant player to play with.

[Dadswell]

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Today I decided to put a bit of money into Stars after playing party for a good while. I couldn't get that much in there so I had to drop down to 200NL. From what I saw the games were terrible.

Lots of tables with a VPIP < 15, lots of tables full of nits just grinding against each other, why do they play that table without a single person over 15?

I knew there were nits and then I ran into players like futilewar, EurekaKid, bryanboyd, petrodactyl6, etc all who play less than 10% of hands, are they making any money, like who pays these guys off?

Anyway just wondering how long the games have been this bad?

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Ah petrodactly is pretty good player and his vp$ip is higher than 10. Also I agree that the tables are nitty but there are donks and plenty of them still mixed in @ the tables you just have to know how to look for them. The tables appear nittier becasue there are 6-7 nitty regs at every table now. The other 3 players you named are all very exploitable and easy to beat

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Ya Im not sure on their exact stats as I only had a 100 or so hands on them. Anyway I was just surprised at the amount of super nits at that level. Going to have to check out the higher stakes games and if they're like that back to party i guess

[mab812]

well written RyanCMU...

let's discuss the playign styles of some of the better NL 100 players then - (and it's funny how we assciate) or at least a lot on here....better being those that play more LAG than the other 'regs'.

- bottomset:
- what makes him a feared opponent?
- what does he do that makes you sqirm or pound the table?
- what makes him difficult to play?
- do you avoid him OOP, why? do you avoid him IN position? why?
- what are some other questions we can ask?

Drballgame (who is he on 2+2? by the way?)
AChen
BigLivesOn

same questions, what makes them difficult,etc. feel free to add names and what makes them 'better' than your regular 'reg'