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Old 11-19-2007, 02:43 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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In my lifetime...

Best - Eisenhower
Worst - Carter
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:45 PM
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Eisenhower? You're an old fart.

I don't think there have been any good presidents in my lifetime, I'd probably go with Eisenhower as the "best."

Nixon was the worst, and it isn't close. That's saying something, because Carter and the current Bush were awful.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:13 PM
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Could people please explain their reasons? Simply listing isn't very informative. Specifically, Andyfox, could you elaborate on why Nixon was far and away the worst?

I'm curious why you make mention of "not even close", when compared to this board's railing against FDR and Lincoln.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:45 PM
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For the presidents I've observed, Ronald Reagan and it's not even close:

1. He had the right message at the right time. After the Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter years the U.S. was in what Carter called a "malaise" and I think Reagan was the cheerleader we needed to bring the U.S. out of that situation.

2. Bringing an end to the cold war. Even though the liberals will argue ad infinitum that Reagan didn't end the cold war, they're wrong, he did. Could he have done it following the same policies in 1965? Probably not but again he was the right guy at the right time. If you read Alan Greenspan's current book, The Age of Turbulence, you get a good picture of what the economic situation int he communist countires at the time Reagan was in office. It was worse than anyone had ever imagined and certainly the West had vastly overrated their economic capabilities. Reagan policies exposed this weakness.

3. Handling of the PATCO strike. He warned the Air Traffic Controllers that he'd fire every one of them if they went out on strike illegally. They did and he did. IMO this was the turning point and market the zenith in the power of unions in the U.S.

4. His leadership in fashioning a bipartisan "fix" for Social Security that created a surplus in Social Security revenue that exists to this day. Can't imagine anything like this happening in today's political environment.

5. Following through on de-regulation. Carter started the ball rolling on de-regulation of many industries. Reagan saw it through and helped it continue.

6. Reaganomics. Reagan embraced "supply side" economics. He also embraced freer less regulated markets and the U.S. economy grew as a result. One of the nastiest recessions that I've witnessed occurred early in Reagan's administration. That was due to the Fed policy of "break the back" of inflation. The era of disinflation began during the Reagan era and it continues to this day. Also he appointed Alan Greenspan during his term.

7. Supreme Court appointments. Sandra Day O'Conner, William Rehnquist, and Antonis Scalia.

8. Tax simplification. Well it didn't last but he actually championed a law (another bipartisan effort btw) that was passed that created 2 tax brackets.

Did I make any liberals puke yet?
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:59 PM
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Washington is easily the best. He was non-partisan and had practically the unanimous support of his contemporaries. He was a good leader at a time when the country needed one. Plus Martha was hot.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:35 PM
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"Did I make any liberals puke yet?"

One, for sure.

Just one comment on your citation of Mr. Greenspan's book. Indeed, the economic situation in the Communist world was far worse than most anyone had thought. Whose voice was it that had consistently told us ad inifinitum that it was in fact far better than our leaders had either known or were letting on and that we had in fact vastly underrated their economic capabilities?
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:49 PM
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Washington, hands down. Set a host of precedents too numerous to list, lent his prestige to legitimize the office and shepherded the nation through its infancy.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:29 PM
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"specifically, Andyfox, could you elaborate on why Nixon was far and away the worst?"

Vietnam, Watergate, Kissinger.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:55 PM
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"specifically, Andyfox, could you elaborate on why Nixon was far and away the worst?"

Vietnam, Watergate, Kissinger.

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Yeah, damn Nixon for getting us out of Nam! We should have kept going until those commies were conquered!
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:00 AM
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"specifically, Andyfox, could you elaborate on why Nixon was far and away the worst?"

Vietnam, Watergate, Kissinger.

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Yeah, damn Nixon for getting us out of Nam! We should have kept going until those commies were conquered!

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So you approve of how Nixon managed the war. Great. Maybe we should destroy Syria and Jordan through secret bombings and a web of lies, unnecessarily kill a few hundred thousand more brown people, all on our way out of Iraq just so you can laud that exit as well. [censored] idiot.
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