OT: How often do regs spew?

[ValarMorghulis]

Perhaps a lot of the spew we are talking about is results oriented. We have a session where we bluff a lot and it all comes off, we are god's gift to poker. Another time we lose 4 BIs and feel like an idiot.

[scallop]

This thread as made me feel much better about myself.

Ftr, I spew once per hand.

[MyironThumb]

how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00

[Skleice]

I dumped a few buyin's last night. I tilt very rarely, but something wound me up last night. It's more embarrassing than anything esle. And it does suck that I have to grind the money back when I basically gave it away.

[Melchiades]

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how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00

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Hi there Superuser363! Thought I'd be a good friend and quote this for you.

[MyironThumb]

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how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00

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Hi there Superuser363! Thought I'd be a good friend and quote this for you.

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gee thanks?

[pineapple888]

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Perhaps a lot of the spew we are talking about is results oriented. We have a session where we bluff a lot and it all comes off, we are god's gift to poker. Another time we lose 4 BIs and feel like an idiot.

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Well, yeah, I think there might be something to this.

I had realized that I needed to open up my game a bit, and actually ran very well for a while doing this, then suddenly got overconfident I think.

Looking back on the hands, the plays themselves weren't obviously horrible, it was just not taking all the variables into account (i.e., bad move in that spot, against that Villain, with those stacks) trying to be objective of course, not results-oriented.

Plus some "agressive calls" which were just bad. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I mean I had some decent plays also like just shoving the river vs. a weak-tighty with WtSD<10, not repping much of anything, but counting on him to find a fold, which he did.

So who knows, maybe you just have to spew sometimes to figure out where the "right" mark is on the aggression meter.

[chiTown22]

I consider spew plays you make at a pot that based on the information provided had a very low percentage chance of success.

For example,
Three bet TT OOP
Get called
C-bet undercard flop
Get Called
Check / shove a turn bet that basically commited your opp.

At the time I did not stop and think before shoving the turn. Zomg, this guy is making a play at me... etc. Based on the size of his turn bet my shove was spew.

You must look at the information available to you at the time of your play. If you had good reason to believe the play would work it is not spew. Therefore, you should never spew.

IMO, The idea that a good aggresive player will spew every now and then is a cop out. You should make good decisions everytime, anything less is unacceptable.

My 2 cents.