Player asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino...

[OnYourBike]

It's completely within the rules to ask to see the cards. I don't understand why anyone would take it personally. It's as stupid as getting pissed because someone check raised or bluffed you.

[Pot Odds RAC]

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It's completely within the rules to ask to see the cards. I don't understand why anyone would take it personally. It's as stupid as getting pissed because someone check raised or bluffed you.

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The rule is to prevent collusion.

To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.

...plus, it slows down the stinking game.

[ShipitFMA]

I play at crown and i've asked about this, ONLY people participating in the hand are allowed to ask to see the mucked cards at showdown

[shipitkthx]

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I play at crown and i've asked about this, ONLY people participating in the hand are allowed to ask to see the mucked cards at showdown

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I've seen this variation of the rule before and personally I think its retarded as it takes away the true purpose of the rule. If I actually suspect 2 people of colluding I shouldn't have to stay in the pot just so I can prove it at the end.

[daveT]

Amazing all the information retards can get from seeing one hand I played. My game is completely transparent, everyone at the table has picked up on my major tell, and I have to add more deception to my game to trick them.

I, in fact, plan ahead for this very situation. I keep a pair of sunglasses in my back pocket. I practice in front of the mirror to nail the fake tells. I then play loose at first, forcing as many hands to showdown as possible. I then open-muck on the river when my all-in bluff is called.

After this, I change my game entirely. I play more disciplined, hoping to use my donkey image to my advantage. In fact, I am so tight, they forget about me. I kindly show the nuts, and set them up for the big bluffs on later streets.

I make sure that I control all of the information my opponents get. Try it. It really works.

[bernie]

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

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[shipitkthx]

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

b

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I think most of us know that its not why they are doing it. But we are pissed off they are asking in the first place so we get defensive and use this line as a way of pointing out to them that if they don't think we are cheating they shouldn't be asking.

[bernie]

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

b

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I think most of us know that its not why they are doing it. But we are pissed off they are asking in the first place so we get defensive and use this line as a way of pointing out to them that if they don't think we are cheating they shouldn't be asking.

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I think it's an absolute waste of energy to even get pissed off about it.

Much better things to worry about when on the table.

b

[Pot Odds RAC]

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

b

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Frankly, I do have a "clue whatsoever" my point is that this is generally considered to be extremely poor etiquette - particularly among the more experienced Live players

[llleisure]

I've only run into this once playing live and I'm fairly sure the goof that did it couldn't comprehend or use any information he gained about my play of one hand.

Rather than get annoyed about it, why not comply, make a mental note that this guy is probably watching you for tells and he may be willing to make decisions based on what he thinks he knows because of said tells. Use this to your advantage; profit. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]