AQ in Re-raised pot

[Bode-ist]

i let this go also without a read. Villain villain isnt doing this with anything you beat.

[shpanko]

check the flop. as played I guess fold even though it's gross

[King Car]

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check the flop

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Why?

[HitMe1Time]

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check the flop. as played I guess fold even though it's gross

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Well if I check, that will definatly show weakness, and as you all said my hand is weak here. But if I do check, it gives the pot control his way, and he can be betting with JQ sooted or something, I have no clue where I would be.


Now if I check, he bets 18 or something and turn was a 5, now what am I doing there? Do I call the $40 bet there?

[Chaos_ult]

History is probably the most important piece of information here, of which you have provided none.

[DrewTheHead]

i think where shpanko is going is that paired board flops are very easy to C/R in his spot. By checking you do not give him pot control because you have position. It simply keeps the pot smaller. I check behind 35% with AQ here depending on villian.

It underreps your hand and he is firing any turn more than likely and you must reason on how much to raise. This gives you pot control back and he cant call unless he really is holding an 8.

[shpanko]

Um, would've you like him to be betting QJs on the turn? Why not give him the chance to bluff. Basically no hands you beat are going to be in this hand to call your flop bet. You're either way ahead of way behind. So check the flop and get more value from 99-KK, or let him bluff whatever trash you have. Betting just gets played back at by better hands and lets worse hands off the hook.

Also reads help :P

[HitMe1Time]

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Um, would've you like him to be betting QJs on the turn? Why not give him the chance to bluff. Basically no hands you beat are going to be in this hand to call your flop bet. You're either way ahead of way behind. So check the flop and get more value from 99-KK, or let him bluff whatever trash you have. Betting just gets played back at by better hands and lets worse hands off the hook.

Also reads help :P

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OK thats stating obv. Lets say he bets $40 on turn I call. River is a 2, he bets $100, now what do you do?

[shpanko]

Like I said reads will help with this. And I'd prob call turn and fold to a large river bet. If he's aggro and likes to pounce on weakness I'll call the large river bet.

The point is that when the action involves you checking the flop and calling on later streets you're more apt to get money in ahead, as opposed to when you bet the flop and only get played back at /called by better hands. See what I mean?

Betting the flop makes the hand easier to play sure, but it's definitely not the most +EV, I think this is fairly obvios to be honest and I'm not trying to be a douche. I believe without a better read checking the flop here should be standard with a lot of your range.

[EasyAs1-2-3]

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Um, would've you like him to be betting QJs on the turn? Why not give him the chance to bluff. Basically no hands you beat are going to be in this hand to call your flop bet. You're either way ahead of way behind. So check the flop and get more value from 99-KK, or let him bluff whatever trash you have. Betting just gets played back at by better hands and lets worse hands off the hook.

Also reads help :P

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Good reasoning. However, what do we do if we ck behind flop, call ~pot bet from him on turn, and then he shoves river? Fold I guess, but its hard to tell w/ no info on villain on whats prolly a pretty read dependent spot.