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Old 11-16-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?

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This sounds like a great way to ruin your own life.


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You watch too many movies. If we lived in Mexico, Colombia, or even Italy, my advice would be to steer well clear of anyone who might even be a minor associate of an organized crime group.

In the US, organized crime relies on corruption, fear and intimidation (not unrestrained violence). An example is that people think bookies murder people who owe them money. How often do you actually think this happens? They start with threats, and move on to beatings. Committing a murder would be extremely rare.

In the US, the most dangerous criminals are the dumbest and least successful ones. If this guy was some stupid 18 year old clown who watched the Sopranos way too much, he would be a bigger danger to Daliman's life than a middle-aged, successful OC associate.

You should remember that the biggest, baddest gang in the world is the US government. Nobody [censored] with them (except excessively stupid and crazy people). Do you realize that in other countries the OC groups have been known to kill law enforcement, prosecutors, judges and random civilians? An environment of unrestrained, massive violence doesn't fly here. That's not how the successful organized crime groups work.

This guy isn't some dumb-ass gangbanger who is gonna shoot his fellow teenager because his doo-rag is the wrong color. He is a guy with a wife and kids, with a legitimate business. Even if he goes to his associates, they are just gonna tell him to sit tight and keep his mouth shut (in other words, do some small jail time).

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I should also add that I just said he should tip off the FBI. I am not saying he should walk into the local crime lord's office and say "I am taking over" or anything like that.

Just drop this guy a hint that you are gonna go to the FBI.

If he doesn't pay up, go ahead and do it. You are just tipping them off, and telling them what to look for. You wouldn't need to testify or anything like that. You would just start the ball rolling, and give them a reason to start the investigation/surveillance.

Also, being scared that they will jump all over you for PLACING bets is just more of being scared of your own shadow. They want info on serious criminals.

If you know some specifics about how his business works (where is the wire room, what is the phone number, who works for him, etc.), then so much the better.
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