skier well

[Speedlimits]

What is your lifetime WWSF?

How many hands do you think one needs before determining their "true winrate?" You said you had a 150k break even stretch? What limits?

[skier_5]

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What is your lifetime WWSF?

How many hands do you think one needs before determining their "true winrate?" You said you had a 150k break even stretch? What limits?

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its 46 over the 210k hands in this db. lifetime id suspect its lower. my actual wwsf, i suspect is higher now.

True win rate takes a lot, i'd imagine over 250k hands but you get a pretty good idea after like 100k hands or something. the breakeven was at 5/10 and and 10/20.

[skier_5]

also you guys ask way too much about stats in these [censored] things. they;re not nearly that important and vary greatly depending on how you play.

[thac]

How do you react to 3-bets OOP (either EP vs BTN, CO vs BTN or SB v BB) against a nitty (say 18/15 [datamined so you have no actual reads]) regular? Like, what hands will you call/4bet, and what do you think your ratio is for real hands:bluffs?

[Worm75]

How many 5 yr olds?

[skier_5]

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How do you react to 3-bets OOP (either EP vs BTN, CO vs BTN or SB v BB) against a nitty (say 18/15 [datamined so you have no actual reads]) regular? Like, what hands will you call/4bet, and what do you think your ratio is for real hands:bluffs?

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im probably nittier than most with calling 3bets and would def just play solid unless i had a reason to do otherwise (but then we would have other reads).

depending on positions id def 4bet all of my range sometimes and almost always Ak. I might muck TT sometimes and usually call pairs above that sometimes 4betting. if we have set odds id consider calling with small pairs too.

if he's one of those robo 3betters then id obviously play a little differently.

[_dave_]

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they're not nearly that important and vary greatly depending on how you play.


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Yes, but down here we wonder how winning MS/HSNLers play [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

At least I guess thid is the reason for these stat enquiries... people are wanting a general impression of how you play, not a magical stat to reach for, imo.

Hopefully will be a great well.. please keep it open for several days as Metetron did.

TY for doing this, Skier_5.

[skier_5]

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they're not nearly that important and vary greatly depending on how you play.


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Yes, but down here we wonder how winning MS/HSNLers play [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

At least I guess thid is the reason for these stat enquiries... people are wanting a general impression of how you play, not a magical stat to reach for, imo.

Hopefully will be a great well.. please keep it open for several days as Metetron did.

TY for doing this, Skier_5.

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I kinda realize that and it's not exactly what I meant. I mean there are hsnl and msnl players with all stats. lags, tags, nits and many styles are profitable.

Stats like AF are often gonna be determined by action on previous streets or your gameplan on future streets. Like if I never 3bet preflop my flop AF is gonna be a lot higher than if i do because not only do I have more strong hands, but I can bluff raise with a higher frequency.

Though I suppose if I do something different and unique and have an AF out of whack because of it, I suppose that wouldn't be a bad way to find out about it. ie ultra high river AF or something.