Dating a poker pro- From the perspective of a non-playing girlfriend

[Mr_Pathetic]

games are tougher then just one year ago. it used to be that 8PTBB was the norm instead of 5 but I think the games will always be profitable at a certain level for anyone. how far up that level is depends on a lot of things though. Before, anyone willing to invest a lot of time could make really good money and I do not feel that is not the case anymore. you're going to have to be very intelligent and possess some talent/six sensth or whatever you want to call it in order to make it to a significant level and win longterm. my talent is my memory. its the best skill i got.

like people trying to be actors, you can never know if you'll make it till you try but you got to be willing to know and come to grips when you are clearly not going to make it. it's like an addict coming to grips with his situation. it's very hard to do for anyone. kind of like me playing poker right now. i have set a goal for myself that is very achievable if i turn into anything decent and if i do not meet that goal come sept. 1st I will be making other plans.

i just don't to wake up working a job i hate for measly money wondering if i could have been great at something, i just got to know. knowing is better then not knowing for me.

[Brad1970]

There's some good points made on both sides in this thread but there seems to be a reoccuring theme in the 'pro-gambler' camp...all of you curl your nose up at the thought of having to actually hold a job. I'm not saying poker isn't work or that everyone should want to have a day job....just that it is a common denominator.

[Henry17]

I think a job would be a serious issue psychologically. I spend money on stuff now that I would never spend if I had a job. It just feels different. With a job I'd be equating how much something costs with how many hours I'd have to work to get that money vs with gambling I consider how many bets. Winning money vs getting paid by an employer makes having a high burn rate easier to justify.

[Thremp]

Security from gambling is way way way higher than a job. I control my income and my fate. I work more if I want more money, work less when I don't. You on the other hand are merely at the hands of fate... New technological advances could render your skillset worthless. I meanwhile have a fleet of degenerates who have kept my business in business for centuries with steady growth in sight.

As an aside. LOLLERSKATES at golfclown and his estimates of what people make. 2p2ers I have personally met are the entirety of the community making 200k+ a year. Get a clue man.

[golfnutt]

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Security from gambling is way way way higher than a job. I control my income and my fate. I work more if I want more money, work less when I don't.

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Keep telling yourself that. If you somehow always think that the more you gamble, the more money you will make, and you control your income, I want to know what color the sky is on your planet.

[geormiet]

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Security from gambling is way way way higher than a job. I control my income and my fate. I work more if I want more money, work less when I don't.

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Keep telling yourself that. If you somehow always think that the more you gamble, the more money you will make, and you control your income, I want to know what color the sky is on your planet.

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Golfnut do you play poker yourself? Do you feel it's not possible to win at poker in the long run?

[golfnutt]

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Golfnut do you play poker yourself? Do you feel it's not possible to win at poker in the long run?

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Yes, I have played poker the past 18 years. And I am a long-term winner. There have been periods of variance and anyone who has played long enough knows it. There is no definitive the more you play, the more you win in month. It is like the stock-market. Overall, it rises, but there can be losses day to day, month to month and even year over year.

There are extremely few people who can sustain a career just from playing poker. That is the same for all high-risk professions -- acting, pro sports, music, etc.

The only difference is not the lack of transferable skills that poker has (because it is the same for music or acting) but the corruption of the value of money that comes along with poker that makes getting a 'fall-back' job incredibly more difficult.

[Thremp]

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Security from gambling is way way way higher than a job. I control my income and my fate. I work more if I want more money, work less when I don't.

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Keep telling yourself that. If you somehow always think that the more you gamble, the more money you will make, and you control your income, I want to know what color the sky is on your planet.

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Okay please explain to me how "you" control your fate more than I do. I choose the hours I work. I understand basic math. I know what the "long run" is for the games I play. I know how to ride the varianceaments out.

Given the fact my income is ~10x my expenses... I think I'll be able to make it.

Tell me something else hilarious next. More about how your a winner, but had a really bad downswing. Or how you got sick and it decimated your roll. Or how I'm wasting my youth playing pokerz and wanting to retire absurdly young while I should commit myself to toiling 9-5 for the next 40 years.