5/10 NL live double checkraise and possible sick river call

[cero_z]

Hi McStinky,

I understand your thought process here; you have a stronger hand than you would need to raise pre-flop and bet this flop, your opponent knows this, and he's very bluff-happy, so you are trying to induce a huge bluff and pick it off. Fine; not a bad strategy in general. But here, your hand is simply not strong enough to risk that.

If you had 2 pair or a set on the flop, your play would make much more sense; maneuver him into making a big move when he's a 2:1 dog or worse. Similarly, you could do this on a less coordinated board with just tptk or an overpair. Here, you made the mistake of thinking that you could spring the trap with just a pair on a board that contains all sorts of ways for you to be crushed.

As played, you should've checked the turn behind IMO with the plan of calling a lot on even terrible-looking rivers like this one (since your opponent is nuts), or better yet, you should've checked behind on the flop and rope-a-doped the rest of the hand. In other words, pot control, even though this is the type of player that you sometimes wouldn't have to use pot control against with tptk. On this board, you do.

[Requin]

Cero I disagree, its pretty easy to put villain on a jack here if we think he was bluffing the flop, and in position this makes our hand really easy to play. Snap fold a K or an 8 and call any blank river. A jack is the only iffy card since he could have AJ but it's still a fairly easy fold.

Oh yeah a board pairing card is not great for us but we still have a solid call.

[McStinky]

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Cero I disagree, its pretty easy to put villain on a jack here if we think he was bluffing the flop, and in position this makes our hand really easy to play. Snap fold a K or an 8 and call any blank river. A jack is the only iffy card since he could have AJ but it's still a fairly easy fold.

Oh yeah a board pairing card is not great for us but we still have a solid call.

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It would be cool if I could put him on 9J, TJ, QJ, or AJ from the preflop, flop and turn action, and then rule out two pair from the way he bet the river, and then confidently call because he has AJ. But pretending to be able to read someone that well is silly. You are right that folding is the right play.

[McStinky]

I called and he had 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Pair plus gutshot on the flop, and picked up a flush draw on the turn. Good read by me, bad execution.