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11-12-2007, 12:48 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody 
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11-12-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Well, it was a 2 point game. So there are probably 30 or 40 plays that fit this criteria. Dozens at the bare minimum.
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11-12-2007, 12:58 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Well, it was a 2 point game. So there are probably 30 or 40 plays that fit this criteria. Dozens at the bare minimum. [/ QUOTE ] Right which is exactly what I said. Any of those fit that situation, just as that call specifically does as well. Cody
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11-12-2007, 12:59 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Well, it was a 2 point game. So there are probably 30 or 40 plays that fit this criteria. Dozens at the bare minimum. [/ QUOTE ] Right which is exactly what I said. Any of those fit that situation, just as that call specifically does as well. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Right. But it doesnt serve Edge's agenda to focus on the other 30 that WERENT the result of a questionable call. Thats all I'm saying.
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11-12-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Well, it was a 2 point game. So there are probably 30 or 40 plays that fit this criteria. Dozens at the bare minimum. [/ QUOTE ] Right which is exactly what I said. Any of those fit that situation, just as that call specifically does as well. Cody [/ QUOTE ] Right. But it doesnt serve Edge's agenda to focus on the other 30 that WERENT the result of a questionable call. Thats all I'm saying. [/ QUOTE ] Oh I agree, but each one on it's own, the two that pop to mind now are the "inadvertent whistle and the "false start", could've drastically changed that game. One things for sure, the NFL officiating office probably wishes this thing never happened. Cody
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11-12-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. [/ QUOTE ] Nobody is arguing with that. The point here is that with that call the Colts probably win in that spot. It took away pretty much nothing from the Colts win percentage. Hell there is a fair chance the Colts take the penalty there to save the timeout in case of a miss.
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#9
11-12-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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Hell there is a fair chance the Colts take the penalty there to save the timeout in case of a miss. [/ QUOTE ] Great point. It's almost certainly +EV to have the extra TO vs. the additional 5 yards on the FG try in that spot. Of course, the higher +EV play would have been to forget about trying to draw them offsides and just go for the FG (when is the last time anyone remembers ANY defense jumping offsides in that situation?). Oh, and that "simulating the snap" penalty was actually a good call, and is exactly why that rule is in the book.
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11-12-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Chargers suck, and they got saved by a complete judgment call penalty that moved the kick back 5 yards. [/ QUOTE ] If they don't get that penalty what happens there? [/ QUOTE ] Well, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Colts call the timeout that they were going to if SD didn't jump. Let's give Vinatieri the EXACT same kick, only from 24 instead of 29. FG good, Colts up and Rivers is forced to throw the ball. LOL, the Chargers got shut out for basically the ENTIRE GAME on offense. I kinda like our chances. [/ QUOTE ] You may kinda like your chances but your hailed QB just had the worst game of his life, and you want to blame it on 1 disputable call? snap out of it [/ QUOTE ] He's right, if not for that call, the COlts probably win. That's not to say Peyton didn't have a bad game, or a bunch of penelties/non-penelties got called the game wasn't different, but that last kick was a very measurable "change one thing and its a totally different game" thing. Cody [/ QUOTE ] I just want everybody to see this one more time. If you aren't going to lose your minds and flame him for agreeing with what I said, then why flame me for [censored] saying it? I love that I can make otherwise reasonable people go insane just because of who I cheer for.
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