***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

[whyzze]

about the counting systems. They will catch you doing 90% of them without a team. Aside from that, the past few casino's ive been to, use a perpetual shuffler, so it negates any card counting EV whatsoever. They save the single deck...and even the 4-6 deck games for more baller stakes than I play.

You should really learn craps....its so fun. the last time I played craps was in detroit...all the 'locals' bet against me when I was rolling lmao.

[vixticator]

I have never played craps. Blackjack and roulette put me on tilt even more than slot machines. Last three times have all been poker only.

[whyzze]

wheel of fortune slots = ++++EV. I think im up ~100 without ever hitting a decent score...just on spinning the wheel then stopping.


my standard casino trip is own craps...hand gf my profit and then she lucksacks the roullette table. Ive never played poker at a casino.

[Lego05]

[ QUOTE ]
wheel of fortune slots = ++++EV. I think im up ~100 without ever hitting a decent score...just on spinning the wheel then stopping.


my standard casino trip is own craps...hand gf my profit and then she lucksacks the roullette table. Ive never played poker at a casino.

[/ QUOTE ]

I sawy those wheel of fortune things my last trip. I hate slots though...I never play those stupid things...I mena they're boring as hell...oooh pulll the lever, push the button....plus the advertising campaing is 85% of money back or w/e....like c'mon they are actually advertising that however much money goes in 85% of that come back.....they're advertising that is supposed to attract people is bascially saying that you are going to lose 15% of w/e you put in and that's probably a really really good deal.

Maybe I should learn craps but it's probably not worth my time that it would take.



And poker is soooo +ev in casinos...although also boring since it's 20-30 hands per hour and probably less ev than online depending on the stakes you play also due to the hands per hour figure....though live your winrate would likely be much larger.


If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

[Lego05]

Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

[johnnybeef]

[ QUOTE ]
Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

I dunno about killing them. I did pretty well at the 55s for a while in 06. I made the switch to 100 nl in august of 06 and treaded water for a while before deciding to get a job. I recently got a br again and have been grinding to get the roll fit to play 100+ again.

[Lego05]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

I dunno about killing them. I did pretty well at the 55s for a while in 06. I made the switch to 100 nl in august of 06 and treaded water for a while before deciding to get a job. I recently got a br again and have been grinding to get the roll fit to play 100+ again.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh I guess I didn't confuse you with anybody...just had your results overexagerrated in my head back when I played the 27's and 60's.


What was your ROI at 60's if you don't mind? Mine was only like 3% or so for the time I played them.

[vixticator]

[ QUOTE ]
If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

[/ QUOTE ]heh qft, small stake casino poker players are mindblowingly bad

[Lego05]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

[/ QUOTE ]heh qft, small stake casino poker players are mindblowingly bad

[/ QUOTE ]

Hell yea....AK on an A high flop is the nuts 150 BB's deep. It certainly was last time I played when I stacked what I gave credit to being AQ but he said he had AJ. Usually online I just call his flop donk....but libe I raise his $30 to $85 then just bet the turn and the river until they're shipping a 300 BB pot to my backdoored A high flush (I didn't need the flush...TPTK was good.) Soooo bad. If we could get more hands in live I could make sooo much money at casinos.....though I gues they'd go broke faster (but there are prolly more fishes live, right, I dunno)...all I know is live games are ridiculously soft and I still make more $ per hour online because you can play so many more hands online than live per hour.



Let's picket casinos for the ability to multitable poker.

[vixticator]

[ QUOTE ]
If we could get more hands in live I could make sooo much money at casinos.....though I gues they'd go broke faster (but there are prolly more fishes live, right, I dunno)...all I know is live games are ridiculously soft and I still make more $ per hour online because you can play so many more hands online than live per hour.

[/ QUOTE ]Not many people go to a casino to sit and wait for hands. It's all gamble. Totally standard for a table to have PFR of 8xbb or higher too, lol. You can almost just nut peddle. I'll gamble it up with them a bit too, I shoved the sucker straight for like 200bb at Mandalay Bay and two people called me neither had me beat or had a set. Two pair and one with middle pair + gutshot... gutshot sucked out. That sucked. But, make it back so easy. Most tables just never going to see someone fold middle pair. Every now and then you run into a player who makes a big fold, but then he keeps doing it in really dumb spots where it's a trivial call.

The only downside is live players are INCREDIBLY annoying. But it's fun at the right table along with hugely profitable. I left a juicy game at the Tropicana because this one tool was tanking every hand and complained more in 20 mins than Hellmuth has done in his lifetime... in 200nl! Ugh.


edit: Bah, FT MTT I raised CO with AJ, station calls on button. J33 flop. A few hands ago I bet flop and c/f turn. So, I bet. He calls. Blank on turn. I check. He bets. I shove. He instacalls with J9 spikes a 9, weeeeeeee! FU poker gawds.