Female on Paxil, Things have changed

[tuq]

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I assume your star is from this thread? Thanks astroglide.

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What's interesting is, I am pretty sure Doc had a * when this thread started, then at some point it got removed, and now it's back. I don't know if this thread is the impetus for its reappearance or not.

Doc, I've not been helpful during all of this, but your answers are above. This story is getting to the point where I think you may be a gimmick account...I mean, who would admit to this many eff-ups?

[SoloAJ]

Why would we let this thread die when clearly there is more good information being given.

My only hope is that future posters of girl problems read Blarg's posts beforehand. He had great insight.

It amazes me how long it takes people to realize that life is about making yourself happy. Quit wasting time trying to force happiness when it is out there free flowing....

[Doc7]

It's just not going to happen, guys. the following trip report is going to disappoint you a great deal, as to me it reads like someting out of freakin dirty romance novels until you hit the end where nothing happens.

Earlier this afternoon we were talking about some [censored] or another in my room and urbandictionary.com was being used, and i slyly mentioned having looked up something she mentioned a few weeks ago. she got semi pissed when i didn't tell her what the word was.

fast forward to 5 hours later. (EDIT: we've moved to her room, and i am drinking beers and reading SSHE while she is studying for an exam) she bribes me to tell her the first letter and how many letters the word is by letting me brush her ridiculously awesome hair. at first i was like um, hell no, that's a pretty crappy deal. but then i realized the opportunities having my hands in her hair would afford, so i agreed. ~30 minutes later she's still sitting there with the notecard wheel-of-fortune stlye trying to figure out the word, and i convince her out of her jeans and into shorts she got the other day that are maybe 6 inches long. at this point im sitting on her bed behind her in a low-to-the floor chair, ogling her legs propped on the fridge and by this point mostly just trying to keep my hands on her neck instead of hair as much as possible (like most girls, her neck is a big turn-on zone, or so she says and i believe)

a while of this goes by and i'm moving my hands out and basically rubbing her shoulders, going a little up and down a few inches on the sides of her arms with my fingers. this goes on for 2-3 minutes when she goes "um, you're not doing the thing with my hair." and leans forward a bit. i say something along the lines of "heh well i just enjoying myself" and she says "Not. Part. Of. The. Deal." ouch.

few more minutes goes by, she is freaking out trying to get the word (which the entire time i'm trying to convince her is not worth her time to try to guess...i dunno if i was being retarded or using reverse psych. probably retarded reverse psych.) and i talk her out of the zip-down sweater she is wearing over a tiny little frilly shirt underneath.

so at this point i have talked her out of her jeans into short-shorts, her sweater down to something that she probably wouldn't wear out often (at school), and i'm all up in her hair and back of her neck. she solves the word with the newest letter in ~10 seconds, puts back on and zips up the sweatshirt, and says she wants to go to sleep now.

BZZZZZT.


EDIT: the word was not disgusting, but it's also something i don't care to repost here. it may have had a little to do with her giving me the boot (it was something we had discussed a few weeks back after our little make-out session, when she mentioned something she likes better than just kissing. i wanted to see a general populace definition of the word rather than what i had in my head. she had the information when trying to guess the word that i had looked it up to see what she had meant by it rather than my personal definition.

[AlphaWice]

you didnt make moves fast enough. forget the whole word guessing, it keeps the interaction in her frame. get out of her frame. Do you understand? (If you don't, PM me.)

[Doc7]

I'm also not sure about the making moves fast enough. a little bit into the hair brushing thing, she made a joke about how i was probably enjoying this in certain ways. i made another innuendo back at her (edit: about having an erection as she was suggestiing NOT whacking off or something weird like that), and she turned around and said "you better not or you can go back to your room or something" as she eyeballed my crotch to make sure i wasn't sporting wood.

luckily i'm good at concealing that kind of thing (AND/OR I am not that well endowed. You be the judge.)

[b]edit: the point of this post is to say that making "moves" faster would not have been received well.

[Tappy Tibbons]

I'm guessing you're intelligent and used to being right, so this may not do any good, but I honesly want to help you (having been in a similar situation/mindset). You made just about every mistake possible with this girl - you have no game. Fortunately, this can be learned - here are some places to start:

Here
and here

[Phil153]

I won't even deal with how much she's owning you. However...

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a while of this goes by and i'm moving my hands out and basically rubbing her shoulders, going a little up and down a few inches on the sides of her arms with my fingers. this goes on for 2-3 minutes when she goes "um, you're not doing the thing with my hair." and leans forward a bit. i say something along the lines of "heh well i just enjoying myself" and she says "Not. Part. Of. The. Deal." ouch.

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You have to do [censored] that feels good for her. That means:

1. Finding her clitoris
2. Rubbing it.

Getting your hand down her pants has to be your number one goal in life. Sex will follow. Next time you're making out, just do it.

[Doc7]

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1. Finding her clitoris
2. Rubbing it.


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This reminded me. She talked to her doctor yesterday or the day before about the sexual siide effects of paxil. she is now easing herself off of it by only taking half-doses and is planning on getting off it entirely. this means that soon enough she's going to be back at her getting-herself-off-and-telling-me-about-it self, which will make things even harder (in more ways than one). she's not going to be missing sex so much.

[Cancer Merchant]

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This reminded me. She talked to her doctor yesterday or the day before about the sexual siide effects of paxil. she is now easing herself off of it by only taking half-doses and is planning on getting off it entirely. this means that soon enough she's going to be back at her getting-herself-off-and-telling-me-about-it self, which will make things even harder (in more ways than one). she's not going to be missing sex so much.

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Exactly. And it won't be with you. The brushing her hair bit moved you into the friend zone, if you're not already one of the girls.

[Doc7]

Cancer:

She is VERY aware of my deal with her and her hair. She knew at the time when she offered it to me that it was very much a sexual thing for me, so I don't think this moved me any farther into the friend zone than I already was.