High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)

[jjshabado]

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I think the funny thing about all these people jumping over themselves to defend Doyle's fold, is that Doyle himself would probably be reluctant to defend it.

Now I agree that Doyle's move is very understandable considering the deep stacks, it's not some horrible move of course, it's easy to understand. But certainly the amount of money influenced him; at 1/10th the stack and bet sizes he's not folding there, I hope we can all agree.

But Doyle himself probably doesn't like his own play there. And not just in terms of knowing the hands after-the-fact - from the expression on his face he was probably having big 2nd thoughts right after making it.

There are lot of of result-based "wrong" moves that Doyle would do over and over again in the same spot without questioning himself, but I don't think this was one of them. He'd probably like this
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We'll probably never know, but I doubt it. His thought processes was solid, his reasoning was solid, his read was solid. Its just one of those hands.

[Cincy_Kid_ES]

Funny no one ever really seemed to bring this up. Does anyone think the table is silently colluding together?

Honestly, I think that the two big fish everyone is gunning for is mainly Gold and Liliberte. Of course, everyone wants to win and watch out for themselves, but no one is going to gun for Brunson or Barry with 72 like Benyamine did to Gold. Everyone besides Liliberte and Gold are the real pros, and they aren't gonna let those two out of the game alive if they have anything to do with it. This is the key reason why I believe Esfariandi was so hesitant to call Greeinstein. He knows that they aren't going to make plays at each other unless they have a hand.

As far as the Doyle-Gold hand is concerned. Everyone says Doyle folded cause he wasn't sure if he had the best flush or not (which may be partly true) - but how about the fact that he wanted to give Gold a lil taste of blood. Brunson will treat Gold like a wolf hunter in the arctic region by freezing blood on a knife. The hunters let the wolves think they are getting a nice treat until they wind up licking so ferociously that they cut the inside of their mouths and bleed out.

No - I am not saying these players made a verbal agreement, but I feel it is somewhat an unwritten rule that the pros don't gun for the pros when there are well-financed fish at the table. Just like cops don't give cops tickets, you don't need to say it to know that the rule is out there. Just my take on the whole issue - would be interested to see what others have to say.

[Micro Donk]

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Funny no one ever really seemed to bring this up. Does anyone think the table is silently colluding together?

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stop reading there

-ed left out intentionally, pleading with everyone else

[JokersAttack]

[x] live poker is rigged

[Cincy_Kid_ES]

You guys are all retards that barely have a high school education. I'm surprised you can actually get through reading a multi-paragraph post let alone actually understanding the meaning of it.

[Flip-Flop]

Ban the kiddie imo.

[hotmark777]

I didnt read whole post so dont know if anyone mentioned this. Although Doyle's physical read was 100% correct (gold thought he had the nuts, and was giving off tells that it was the case), in reality the only hands that DOyle doesnt beat that is consistent with jamie gold's play are q7ss - q2ss.

Although it can be argued that these are likely holdings in this game, i think doyle still has to call/or stack gold in this situation

[Gislo]

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You guys are all retards that barely have a high school education. I'm surprised you can actually get through reading a multi-paragraph post let alone actually understanding the meaning of it.

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Did you just level yourself seeing as how someone had already comment on what you just wrote before? Seriously - don’t throw bricks in glass houses...

[KiwiMark]

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You guys are all retards that barely have a high school education. I'm surprised you can actually get through reading a multi-paragraph post let alone actually understanding the meaning of it.

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I understood exactly what you were saying, but I thought you were very much wrong. Part of the skill of poker is understanding your opponents, the more you respect their game the more wary you are about tangling with them - you'll take more chances against someone you think is a fish. But no one is conspiring with each other - any money you win is good, no matter who from.

[futuredoc85]

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You guys are all retards that barely have a high school education. I'm surprised you can actually get through reading a multi-paragraph post let alone actually understanding the meaning of it.

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ur first post was dumb but this one is pretty spot on