*** OFFICIAL 11/11/07 NFL EARLY GAME THREAD ***

[kdog]

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Some numbers I've run have Buffalo being about 3-3.5 points better than Miami on a neutral field

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Some power ratings I respect reflect this also.

[psuasskicker]

I really really really like the NO/StL over (got it at 45, now 45.5 wherever I see it). NO offense has found itself, StL D is one of the worst passing defenses in the league and has lost Little. Plus the Rams O seems to be finding itself as guys are getting healthy. I don't expect the rams to give the Saints nearly as much of a game and while I like the +12, I'm not sure I will actually bet it. But I do think this one will be a high scoring affair.

I'm also anxious to see the Clev @ Pitt line. If it's > 1TD, I may bet it very heavily.

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[kyro]

Could you guys post some lines that are out there? I can't get to any sportsbooks from this computer and I want to try picking games based on the numbers I'm running.

[Rustjive]

PHI @ WAS -3
BUF -3 @ MIA
STL @ NO -11.5
MIN @ GB -6
DEN @ KC Not Posted
CLE @ PIT Not Posted
ATL @ CAR -4.5
JAC @ TEN Not Posted

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[kyro]

Wash and GB lines look right at first glance. I like NO -12 and Car -4.5

[theclock]

I like Carolina over Atlanta.

It'll be 3 losses in a row if Car lose here. They won by a TD earlier in the year at ATL. Can't see why they can't do it again even if it is Delhomme less.

[Rustjive]

I'm in for 2u on NO -12 already, and now that the line is moving in my favor I may add to it. Rams' Sagarin ratings are just unreal. Yeah, yeah, the Saints don't have great ratings either, but 14.90 v 5.23 pure points, 20.69 v 5.22 ELO chess, 17.98 v 5.22 ratings with HFA, not to mention totally different 1st quarter season/2nd quarter season splits for the Saints makes it a no contest.

[Jazzy3113]

I dont think loading up on a game with such a large spread is very wise. St. Louis did not look completely horrendus against the browns two weeks ago. Bulger and Jackson are back right?

I think the Pitt Line is going to tumble down so If you like the browns hop on now. Its dropped 1/2 pt for me already.

[aufan91]

Browns +10

[alwardc4]

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I'm also anxious to see the Clev @ Pitt line. If it's > 1TD, I may bet it very heavily.



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I saw it at +10 last week so I jumped on it. I am with you, it shouldn't be much more than a TD. The Brownies still are getting undervalued.