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View Poll Results: HOW FAT IS U
REAL FAT 15 4.09%
130-150lbs overweight 12 3.27%
110-130lbs 6 1.63%
90-110lbs 4 1.09%
70-90lbs 4 1.09%
60-70lbs 2 0.54%
50-60lbs 5 1.36%
40-50lbs 12 3.27%
30-40lbs 20 5.45%
20-30lbs 29 7.90%
10-20lbs 54 14.71%
0-10lbs 66 17.98%
im in shape (lie) 84 22.89%
. 9 2.45%
. 5 1.36%
. 11 3.00%
. 8 2.18%
. 9 2.45%
. 4 1.09%
. 8 2.18%
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:10 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Saying who is smarter is somewhat arbitrary. Some savants can do amazing calculations but are horrible at other things. It is tough to say if they are smarter than an average person.

What you can say is who is more useful and it is Ginger hands down. Computers exist that can do everything Fred can (I think just mathematica alone could be enough) so he would add pretty much nothing.

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Computers can't do one percent of what Fred can. They can't do word problems.

The tough part about math is not knowing how to solve equations. Its about knowing what equation to solve.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:42 AM
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Saying who is smarter is somewhat arbitrary. Some savants can do amazing calculations but are horrible at other things. It is tough to say if they are smarter than an average person.

What you can say is who is more useful and it is Ginger hands down. Computers exist that can do everything Fred can (I think just mathematica alone could be enough) so he would add pretty much nothing.

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Computers can't do one percent of what Fred can. They can't do word problems.

The tough part about math is not knowing how to solve equations. Its about knowing what equation to solve.

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Alot of modern math is solving equations. Things like nonlinear differential equations fit into this category. I am not 100% sure you are right about this but it doesn't matter. I could just say that a normal person with a computer can do everything Fred can.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:17 AM
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I could just say that a normal person with a computer can do everything Fred can.

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Unless this person has mathematical knowledge comparable to Fred's that's simply not true.

Someone without mathematical knowledge but with a computer and say Mathematica would fail miserably even at such simple tasks like constructing an isosceles triangle from two given point in a coordinate system.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:33 AM
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I could just say that a normal person with a computer can do everything Fred can.

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Unless this person has mathematical knowledge comparable to Fred's that's simply not true.

Someone without mathematical knowledge but with a computer and say Mathematica would fail miserably even at such simple tasks like constructing an isosceles triangle from two given point in a coordinate system.

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Yeah, thats what I meant. Any physics or math undergrad in their second year would be as good as good as Fred if they got to use a computer.
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