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Old 11-03-2007, 12:14 AM
Johny Poker Johny Poker is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

You guys are jumping the gun, she will respond shortly.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:19 AM
Johny Poker Johny Poker is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

FTP's terms of service state:
In the event that Full Tilt Poker deems that a player has engaged in fraudulent, unlawful, dishonest or improper activity while playing in our games or tournaments, including without limitation, engaging in any of the activities set forth above or any other game manipulation, or the making of any fraudulent payment, including without limitation, use of a stolen credit card or fraudulent chargeback or money laundering, Full Tilt Poker shall be entitled to take such action as it sees fit, including immediately blocking access to our games and tournaments, terminating the player’s Full Tilt Poker account, seizing all monies held in the relevant Full Tilt Poker "real money account", disclosing such information (including the identity of the player) to banks, credit card companies and/or any person or entity that has the legal right to such information, and/or taking legal action against such player.

So they can take your money and their decision is final? With no evidence? Or evidence that only they get to see? Who in their right mind would want to be subject to this? We want to see some evidence. I will never play on this joke of a site again.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

"automated artificial intelligence software"

to clarify - that means a bot that actually allegedly played for sillysal, right?

it doesn't mean data mining while not playing, does it?
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:23 AM
Johny Poker Johny Poker is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Apparently data mining is allowed.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:27 AM
jukofyork jukofyork is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

[ QUOTE ]
"automated artificial intelligence software"

to clarify - that means a bot that actually allegedly played for sillysal, right?

it doesn't mean data mining while not playing, does it?

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What if it's not "automated", but instead a human uses some "AI software" to display a recommended action based on game theoretic solutions?

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Old 11-03-2007, 12:30 AM
R*R R*R is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Its pretty obvious that these sites can do whatever the [censored] they want. Look at Absolute.
They cheat, lie about it, and they are still pretty much business as usual. If a site can do this and continue operating with virtually no
visible harm, then all sites recognize that they can pretty much do anything they want without worry. Cheat, lie, steal.....pretty scary.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:25 AM
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You guys are jumping the gun, she will respond shortly.

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I'm glad to hear that Johny.
I'm still keeping an open-mind about the potential for a false-positive here and that she really is innocent.
I don't know her from adam but I also don't trust FT to be 100% infallible obviously.

I agree with you other post that it's inappropriate to do it in the way they do. But that's already been stated about a zillion times already.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Unbelievable!

Why keep 47k in you account while using bots?!
I doesnt make sense.

And we can probably now say that Mr.Gatorade trickered the whole fiasco.
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