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[kidcolin]

ok.. fine. you're right. Melo.

How does going for the homerun pick with the #2 constitute being a good GM?

[Fonkey123]

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ok.. fine. you're right. Melo.

How does going for the homerun pick with the #2 constitute being a good GM?

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No, but with all the knowledge available to him I don't think it can be constituted as a LARGE knock on him.

[Vyse]

hmm? he knew he'd have his starting five together for a long time, so he could take the time on developing a multi-faceted big man center who would save him $$ down the line. at worst darko was expected to be an above-average big man for 30 mpg.

he was right about the first part. he was wrong about the second, but so was everyone else, and his veteran-loving stubborn coach sure didn't help.

[kidcolin]

taking Chris Ford's draft analysis as gospel should be, though.

Not to mention the team operated with an obvious lack of depth for way too long.

I'm not trying to say he's a crappy GM.. just saying #2 could be a little ambitious.

[Fonkey123]

I'm curious as to who you would put #2

Colangelo? Paxson? Isiah [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[kidcolin]

Probably too soon now, but Pritchard will probably be in the debate soon. Sam Presti too. Colangelo is also very good.

It's just hard to rate because so much depends on how some ping pong balls fall. I mean, take a look at Paxson. He's largely benefited from the draft and owning Isiah (cuz that takes talent). I mean, he's good. Definitely. He evaluated the talent and made smart picks, and knew the easiest way to build anew is through the draft so he went out to collect picks.

However, everyone pretty much agrees overpaying Wallace and shipping out Tyson Chandler didn't make a ton of sense.

I guess my general point is, given the luck of the draft and the relatively low salary cap that restricts trading a good deal, it's not too easy to analyze GMs. There are basically really good ones (Buford, Paxson, Pritchard), crappy ones (Isiah, King, McHale, Baylor), and a bunch in between.

[Franchise 60]

Colangelo > Dumars

I guess I'd go Buford 1, Colangelo 2. I think Colangelo is an amazing GM, but I'm sure some people disagree with that.

[Fonkey123]

God, don't get me started on the whole Chandler and Wallace situation. I mean I seriously would trade Reinsdorf for Cuban in a milisecond. I just don't understand how his mind works. You don't want to pay Chandler, so you give pax the okay to sign Wallace for more?! I just don't understand.

I respect you though colin, because you're at least rational [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Paxsons positives

Hinrich pick was sick good. Thank god no collison or sweetney.

Looking at the draft Gordon was the 2nd BPA behind Deng who Pax raped the Suns at 7 for.

The Knicks trade is a lot closer than you guys think, but he got the most out of a terrible situation with Curry.

Duhon was a sexy late pick, Gray is shaping up to be an awesome 2nd round pick.

Thomas/Aldridge annoys me to this day though. Thomas is going to have to be substantially better (I doubt that happens) than Aldridge just because of what he gives to this team. I think Pax screwed the pooch when Aldridge/Brewer draft was right there for the taking.

But overall the only thing he def whiffed on was shipping Chandler out. With Ben Wallace they had the capspace for ONE year, so it was either sign him or lose the capspace.

edit he also got put into a lot of [censored] spots with Jay Williams motocycle accident, Curry's heart condition, and a terrible team to start with