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View Poll Results: 14. 6m UTG w/ 33
Raise 7 18.92%
Call 5 13.51%
Fold 25 67.57%
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November!

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thats amazing, i'm not going to ne classes til i beat it

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might want to choose classes instead.

Got inspired, played a little more today before I left work.

New benchmark.


I have no idea how i'm going to get under that 100 second mark. I've only maintained a 1 sec/bomb time for like 40 bombs until I either misclick or just forget all logic.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:01 PM
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Hand #1
$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results:
Hero mucks Ad, Jc.
SB shows Qh, Kh (Straight, ten to ace).
Outcome: SB wins 10.20 BB.
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Hand #2
$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.60 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (4.30 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.30 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.30 BB

Results:
Hero mucks Ad, Jd.
BB shows Kd, Kc (One pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins 8.00 BB.
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Hand #3
$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero caps!</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.60 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#FF0000">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.30 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero folds.

River: (16.30 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 18.30 BB

Results:
CO mucks 9s, 6s.
Button shows 4c, 4d (Three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins 17.95 BB.
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Hand #4
$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.60 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.30 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (9.30 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 11.30 BB

Results:
Hero mucks 9s, 9h.
BB shows Tc, Th (Two Pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: BB wins 11.00 BB.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November!

Posting this in the LC NC thread hoping random lurkers dont read it.

So based on my post from the other day I tried figuring out a new experimental range.



If there is any discrepancies from position to position pls let me know.

The button and SB ranges are pretty much useless. The button range is so variable and a lot of the SB hands I will open complete depending on the opponent.

Feel free to berate or just discuss!
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:09 PM
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Novembers off to a good start....

This hand is meaningful to me because 2 of the other 3 players berated me for "terrible play".. One guy says "keep playing those cards fish", and the other nit in the pot says "yeah you play terrible"

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (16BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 24BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 9d Jd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB mucks Ad Kh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB mucks Qs Ah</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button mucks Ts Ac</font>
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November!

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Novembers off to a good start....

This hand is meaningful to me because 2 of the other 3 players berated me for "terrible play".. One guy says "keep playing those cards fish", and the other nit in the pot says "yeah you play terrible"

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (16BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 24BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 9d Jd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB mucks Ad Kh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB mucks Qs Ah</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button mucks Ts Ac</font>

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This is so [censored] standard it hurts. (And by standard, I mean that though I wasn't button in this hand, I was button in this hand all day yesterday. Ask Efficacy/Tryptamean...)

Edit: El Oh El at BB overcall...
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:11 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Novembers off to a good start....

This hand is meaningful to me because 2 of the other 3 players berated me for "terrible play".. One guy says "keep playing those cards fish", and the other nit in the pot says "yeah you play terrible"

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (16BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 24BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 9d Jd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB mucks Ad Kh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB mucks Qs Ah</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button mucks Ts Ac</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

This is so [censored] standard it hurts. (And by standard, I mean that though I wasn't button in this hand, I was button in this hand all day yesterday. Ask Efficacy/Tryptamean...)

Edit: El Oh El at BB overcall...

[/ QUOTE ]

If I'm SB in this hand I'm done on the flop.
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November!

TPTK with BDNFD in a huge pot? no way.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November!

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Posting this in the LC NC thread hoping random lurkers dont read it.

So based on my post from the other day I tried figuring out a new experimental range.



If there is any discrepancies from position to position pls let me know.

The button and SB ranges are pretty much useless. The button range is so variable and a lot of the SB hands I will open complete depending on the opponent.

Feel free to berate or just discuss!

[/ QUOTE ]

I used to have about the same but recently I've been tightening up (mine now looks like 44, A2s, A6o, K8s, KTo, Q9s, QTo, J8s, JTo/J9o, T9s, T9o, 98s, 87s and maybe 76s).

I had to tighten up because I felt like I didn't play too well. I watched some videos by Stox and he seemed to be much more conservative in situations like this so I figured I'd try it too. I believe I had widened my range too much because I figured my edge was bigger than it actually was.

But if you play well and have a considerable postflop edge over the people in the blinds I definitly advice opening more liberal than what I'm doing right now... i still think yours is a little too loose though. Perhaps something like: 33, A2s, A4o, K6s, K9o, Q8s, QTo, J7s, J9o, T8s, T9o, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s.

I also think you have to consider the rake and blind structure. A 3-5 structure promotes looser play than a 1-2 or 2-5 structure. Furthermore in the lower limits the rake is huge so you need to tighten up accordingly.
My above recommendations is based on no rake and a 1-2 structure.

EDIT: I'm talking about CO.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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I am guessing you are talking about a specific position? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Care to elaborate on which one? CO?
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:38 PM
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Yeah, I was talking about CO. Thought it was what you asked for. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Just a little low content hand. My note on villain was "passive":

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">HERO raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
SB checks, HERO checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
<font color="#ffffff">HERO Shows 10d Kd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows Qs Qh</font>


In one of the next hand he limped and check/called down with KK on a dry board.

EDIT: Thanks to Oink for sponsoring the hand converter.
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