SEC football > all other football

[DannyOcean_]

i'm raising my child like this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r7BZI_ROwMo

[NozeCandy]

Uhhh Michigan alone has OSU, ND, MSU, and to a bit of a lesser extent, PSU. OSU and ND are primary. There are quite a few others in the big 10. Minny/Wiscy comes to mind off the top of my head.

Oklahoma/Texas is easily as big as anything in the SEC. Nebraska/Oklahoma is also huge, the Big 12 adopted a weird schedule where they don't play each other every year.

USC/ND is huge. ND has a ton of traditional rivalries as well. You also have thinks like Washington/WSU, ASU/Arizona out there, etc.

There is tons of emotion everywhere, and proclaiming a conference as better than another based on ridiculous subjective things like that is absurd. Maybe some of the examples shown don't mean anything to you, but they sure as hell do to the people there.

[Dave D]

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Uhhh Michigan alone has OSU, ND, MSU, and to a bit of a lesser extent, PSU. OSU and ND are primary. There are quite a few others in the big 10. Minny/Wiscy comes to mind off the top of my head.

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If you really think that MSU/Michigan is even in the same ballpark as auburn/uga, you're just...misinformed. Michigan always beats on them, whatever. Everyone knows who the better football school is, both traditionally and right now, cmon. Again, point is that you CANT say that for MOST of the SEC schools. The only legit rivelries you mentioned there that compare with SEC rivelries are OSU/ND/PSU. All those schools in a given year are competitive with each other. Incidently, ND isn't in a conference for football, so whatever.

You just can't name a conference with AS MANY serious games as the SEC as Danny explained. The point is that 2/3 of the SEC schedule is a toss up every year, that's NOT true for just about any other conference.

[DannyOcean_]

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Uhhh Michigan alone has OSU, ND, MSU, and to a bit of a lesser extent, PSU. OSU and ND are primary. There are quite a few others in the big 10. Minny/Wiscy comes to mind off the top of my head.

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If you really think that MSU/Michigan is even in the same ballpark as auburn/uga, you're just...misinformed. Michigan always beats on them, whatever. Everyone knows who the better football school is, both traditionally and right now, cmon. Again, point is that you CANT say that for MOST of the SEC schools. The only legit rivelries you mentioned there that compare with SEC rivelries are OSU/ND/PSU. All those schools in a given year are competitive with each other. Incidently, ND isn't in a conference for football, so whatever.

You just can't name a conference with AS MANY serious games as the SEC as Danny explained. The point is that 2/3 of the SEC schedule is a toss up every year, that's NOT true for just about any other conference.

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It's ridiculous to call any PSU rivalry as cold-blooded as any Southern rivalry. PSU hasn't even been in the conference that long. Southern teams don't need retarded 'white outs' to get hyped. UGA/AUB is the least of our four traditional bad blood rivalries and is far more intense. more than 100 years of playing, stealing coaches, borderwars, recruiting battles and bad blood. Not even close. And that's minor right now compared to UGA/UF or AUB/BAMA. the Alabama rivalry is just insane, and is not up for debate as the most heated rivalry in college football.

[NozeCandy]

But you guys were talking about EMOTION and INTENSE HATRED and guess what, MSU and PSU both hate Michigan with a passion. Alabama/Auburn rivalry is by no means "easily" the most heated. Do you guys seriously not see how ridiculously homertastic you are? I'm not debating that there are great rivalries in the south, but all you tools act like that is all there is. There's no possible way to measure any of this crap other than your opinions. Just because the media force-fed us the SEC this year doesn't make their superiority beyond questioning.

I'm not saying the Big 10 is better on the field right now. I'm saying both have looked pretty average this year. If the SEC turns out to be the best come bowl time, I'll readily say it. Then I fully expect a bunch of crap from all of you who will act like you knew it all along when you don't know anything for sure based on any facts.

And oh yeah, you nailed it Danny, PSU can't get loud without the entire crowd putting on the same colored shirt. Shut up. If Georgia did the same thing for a game you'd be going off on how much spirit everyone has.

FWIW, here's a bit from MGoBlog about the SEC this year:

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The events of the past few weeks have caused me to radically revalue the SEC. To wit: it sucks. (For the record, the Big Ten also sucks. The Pac-10 is where it's at this year.) When Mississippi State takes down two supposed contenders, your conference is not good. What real evidence do we have of the SEC dominance that braindead sportswriters and southern yokels proclaim every fall? A brief SEC OOC dossier:

GOOD

LSU crushes VT. Georgia handles Oklahoma State who, yes, lost to Troy but is rounding into a decent Big 12 team. Auburn beats another decent Big 12 team, Kansas State.

LOOKED GOOD BUT UH...

Kentucky beats Louisville. Congratulations. Get in line behind Syracuse.

BAD

Auburn loses to USF. Tennessee is crushed by Cal. Mississippi State, competitive in conference, is obliterated by WVU. South Carolina struggles with awful UNC team. 'Bama loses to thoroughly mediocre FSU.

IRRELEVANT

Ole Miss loses to Mizzou, but they've also lost to every SEC team they've played so no points off.

That is the entire listing of SEC games against BCS competition and it's mostly bad. Mississippi State sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks sucks, sucks and they've beaten Auburn and Kentucky. 3-2 in the SEC Tennessee was crushed by 2-3 in the Pac-10 Cal. 4-1 in the SEC 'Bama lost to 2-3 in the ACC Florida State. So the SEC can suck it.

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The SEC could be the best conference in college football ever this year and it would still be overrated the way people down here talk about it.

[Joe Morgan, HOFc]

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But you guys were talking about EMOTION and INTENSE HATRED and guess what, MSU and PSU both hate Michigan with a passion. Alabama/Auburn rivalry is by no means "easily" the most heated. Do you guys seriously not see how ridiculously homertastic you are? I'm not debating that there are great rivalries in the south, but all you tools act like that is all there is. There's no possible way to measure any of this crap other than your opinions. Just because the media force-fed us the SEC this year doesn't make their superiority beyond questioning.

I'm not saying the Big 10 is better on the field right now. I'm saying both have looked pretty average this year. If the SEC turns out to be the best come bowl time, I'll readily say it. Then I fully expect a bunch of crap from all of you who will act like you knew it all along when you don't know anything for sure based on any facts.

And oh yeah, you nailed it Danny, PSU can't get loud without the entire crowd putting on the same colored shirt. Shut up. If Georgia did the same thing for a game you'd be going off on how much spirit everyone has.

FWIW, here's a bit from MGoBlog about the SEC this year:

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The events of the past few weeks have caused me to radically revalue the SEC. To wit: it sucks. (For the record, the Big Ten also sucks. The Pac-10 is where it's at this year.) When Mississippi State takes down two supposed contenders, your conference is not good. What real evidence do we have of the SEC dominance that braindead sportswriters and southern yokels proclaim every fall? A brief SEC OOC dossier:

GOOD

LSU crushes VT. Georgia handles Oklahoma State who, yes, lost to Troy but is rounding into a decent Big 12 team. Auburn beats another decent Big 12 team, Kansas State.

LOOKED GOOD BUT UH...

Kentucky beats Louisville. Congratulations. Get in line behind Syracuse.

BAD

Auburn loses to USF. Tennessee is crushed by Cal. Mississippi State, competitive in conference, is obliterated by WVU. South Carolina struggles with awful UNC team. 'Bama loses to thoroughly mediocre FSU.

IRRELEVANT

Ole Miss loses to Mizzou, but they've also lost to every SEC team they've played so no points off.

That is the entire listing of SEC games against BCS competition and it's mostly bad. Mississippi State sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks sucks, sucks and they've beaten Auburn and Kentucky. 3-2 in the SEC Tennessee was crushed by 2-3 in the Pac-10 Cal. 4-1 in the SEC 'Bama lost to 2-3 in the ACC Florida State. So the SEC can suck it.

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The SEC could be the best conference in college football ever this year and it would still be overrated the way people down here talk about it.

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[JayA]

I've skimmed through this, so I'm trying not to repeat anything that was said.

Anyone who thinks the PAC-10 is better than the SEC overall is out of their mind. We've had 7 teams in the top 25 at one point this year, 4 of those in the top 10 at one point, and 2 of those in the top 5 at one point. Don't get me wrong; I enjoy PAC-10 football. Oregon is one of my favorite teams to watch by far. Dennis Dixon is an animal imo. But top to bottom, the SEC is deeper in strong teams. 11 of 12 teams in the SEC have winning records overall compared to the PAC-10's 6 of 10.

You may think the SEC doesn't play a tough non conference schedule, but like Noze Candy said, it's because every week is a tough game in the SEC. ESPN College Gameday could literally go to an SEC school almost every week for a big game.

And LOL@ LSU haters. Wasn't Virginia Tech's D supposed to be one of the top ones in the nation when we played them at the beginning of the season? How many points did we put up again? 48? If I remember correctly, our backup QB was in the game IN THE 3RD QUARTER. Cmon, be real with yourselves.

If you're gonna base your argument that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC over the Cal/Tennessee game, then that's just dumb. How about you send someone here to Baton Rouge to play LSU? Then have the play Kentucky the next weekend? After that, how about we send them to Florida? Don't ask for a bye week in between those please. Let's see if they can win all 3. I'd be surprised to see anyone in that conference go 2-1 in those 3 straight games. I'd love to see any Pac-10 team go through the 3 straight games that LSU had to go through of Florida, Kentucky, and Auburn and see how you fair.

SEC>Pac-10

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