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Old 10-26-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

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I fold and also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I agree with the former but not the latter. If we bet more on the turn we are more likely to be priced in on the river if we don't want to call. However, with the bet size amount we still have a comfortable PSB left.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

with that board, the turn bet has to be whatever lets us get shove a PSB on the river or close to it anyway, end is a fold, but bet more on turn imo
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:23 AM
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with that board, the turn bet has to be whatever lets us get shove a PSB on the river or close to it anyway, end is a fold, but bet more on turn imo

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Villain has $26 into $41 with the current bet sizing, if we make it more on the turn we're looking at $20 into $50 where we have a much tougher decision and may have to call.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:37 AM
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^^i get what ur saying sciolist, but i'm banking on the river being a non-diamond most of the time and since it usually is, i want the stacks going in...

obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:07 AM
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obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo

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We basically agree, but I would say that $26 into $42 is a comfortable shove
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

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obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo

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We basically agree, but I would say that $26 into $42 is a comfortable shove

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I'd rather have money in the pot now. If you want to prepare a comfortable shove, you should try to make it as easy as possible. MP will call more money on the turn and it doesn't change their range. If they want to take the rope you need to give it to them.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

sorry scio, i misunderstood ur post, i thought u were holding back on turn in case river was a diamond, but i guess we were just different on bet sizing to get the money in
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