2nd nut flush raised on turn and river. What do i do. 200NL

[DaycareInferno]

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i raise vs. an unknown limping otb.

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wait, you'd 3-bet shove the river?

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sure, against an unknown limping over 1 otb. here's my humanstove calculation:

good player: 15%
retard: 85%

given the human range, combined with the hand range, i'd say we're gonna get called by worse hands than the second nuts here a decent ammount of the time.

[spivey]

I think 3 betting river is fine against a station who won't fold any flush.

[Fat Nicky]

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i raise vs. an unknown limping otb.

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wait, you'd 3-bet shove the river?

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sure, against an unknown limping over 1 otb. here's my humanstove calculation:

good player: 15%
retard: 85%

given the human range, combined with the hand range, i'd say we're gonna get called by worse hands than the second nuts here a decent ammount of the time.

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my first time thinking about the hand, i didn't even consider this as an option.

but thinking more about this, donks are never laying down smaller flushes. and consensus here is that a huge part of his range is smaller flushes.

[Dire]

Clear shove or clear call depending on READS.

[johnnybeef]

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I think this is a tough decision, please elaborate

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I was being sarcastic, and probably a bit preeminently so as I didn't realize how deep you guys were. Your river bet looks like a blocker so I imagine that he is raising a few hands that are very marginal as well as lesser flushes and possibly sets. I think that given that he has roughly 150 behind after the river raise, he may be able to fold a lot of sets/smaller flushes to a 3 bet so I think that a call is likely the best play.

[Fat Nicky]

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I think this is a tough decision, please elaborate

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I was being sarcastic, and probably a bit preeminently so as I didn't realize how deep you guys were. Your river bet looks like a blocker so I imagine that he is raising a few hands that are very marginal as well as lesser flushes and possibly sets. I think that given that he has roughly 150 behind after the river raise, he may be able to fold a lot of sets/smaller flushes to a 3 bet so I think that a call is likely the best play.

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i really doubt this player is raise/folding the river with anything in his range.

[wdead]

your line is so weird.
3bet the turn, and get it in.
as played call the river

[TRD23]

Can you explain your bet sizing on the river?

I am calling this all day against anyone, a shove here though I think is -EV because you are getting called by the nut flush and smaller flushes are folding.

Given the stack sizes I think most idiots will be able to find the fold button holding T9 with $224 to go.

[BenJay]

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i raise vs. an unknown limping otb.

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HUH.
his range when limping on the button, however weak a play that is, does include a lot of small SC type hands and maybe a suited ace (most ppl would raise with a suited aces on the button). i would call the river raise and then vomit a little bit if he turns over the Axs.

your river bet probably induced the raise as it is. call

[Trikkur]

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Can you explain your bet sizing on the river?

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Yea, I figured I if he has 2 pair or a set, he'll check behind so it's for value. Against the flush, I assume he raises and I can b/c or b/3bet depending. Problem is once he raised I kinda froze up and wasn't sure to call or shove.


BTW - I didn't want to 3bet the turn because I think it turns my hand face up and I lose a lot of value from 2 pair or a set.