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Old 10-05-2007, 10:26 AM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Hey guys, I play short limit for a living and was wondering if anyone has read any good limit books that have helped improve their game. The only thing I have ever found to be helpful is of course stox's book.

Thanks!

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Oh no, Bearl discovered 2+2. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Welcome.

You play 0.5/1 Stars for a living? That's impressive.

Anyway, to be constructive:

Small Stakes Hold'em.
Theory of Poker.
Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players.
Inside the Poker Mind.
Winning in Tough Hold'em Games.
How Good is your Limit Hold'em? (1 and 2)

That should get you started.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Limit material.

Ace on the river is pretty good too. It has a lot of insight into the general mindset of a winning player. It's a fun read as well.

Mathematics of poker is really good if you take the time to read and understand it.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

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Hey guys, I play short limit for a living and was wondering if anyone has read any good limit books that have helped improve their game. The only thing I have ever found to be helpful is of course stox's book.

Thanks!

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Oh no, Bearl discovered 2+2. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Welcome.

You play 0.5/1 Stars for a living? That's impressive.

Anyway, to be constructive:

Small Stakes Hold'em.
Theory of Poker.
Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players.
Inside the Poker Mind.
Winning in Tough Hold'em Games.
How Good is your Limit Hold'em? (1 and 2)

That should get you started.

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Thanks. I have read winning in tough hold'em games and of course small stakes hold'em. I have known about 2+2 but never bothered reading the forums until know. I didn't know so much information existed about SHLHE. I used to grind 2/4 and 3/6 exclusively on stars. I stopped playing for a while and just got my supernova back a couple months ago. Grinding 50/1 and 1/2 til I build back a roll again. Ill be sure to check out those other books, Thanks.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

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Hey guys, I play short limit for a living and was wondering if anyone has read any good limit books that have helped improve their game. The only thing I have ever found to be helpful is of course stox's book.

Thanks!

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Oh no, Bearl discovered 2+2. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Welcome.

You play 0.5/1 Stars for a living? That's impressive.

Anyway, to be constructive:

Small Stakes Hold'em.
Theory of Poker.
Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players.
Inside the Poker Mind.
Winning in Tough Hold'em Games.
How Good is your Limit Hold'em? (1 and 2)

That should get you started.

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Thanks. I have read winning in tough hold'em games and of course small stakes hold'em. I have known about 2+2 but never bothered reading the forums until know. I didn't know so much information existed about SHLHE. I used to grind 2/4 and 3/6 exclusively on stars. I stopped playing for a while and just got my supernova back a couple months ago. Grinding 50/1 and 1/2 til I build back a roll again. Ill be sure to check out those other books, Thanks.

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You got nova on 0.5/1 and 1/2? That's impressive as well. I think the rate for FPP at 0.5/1 is about 0.25 and at 1/2 it's about 0.36. We have played a lot together in those games. You seemed a bit too aggressive if that helps you.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

Maybe you should write one on how to play stars .50/1 for a living!

I have historically always played 1 table and am now trying to beat $10/20. I'm crap at multitabling and always go home a looser if I try it, it dosen't suit my game.

So the answer to your question may lie in what you wish to achieve.

I have literally read the whole of Amazon however SSHE, The theory of poker, Holdem for Advanced players and Stox should keep you going for a while.

I am not playing pro however whenever I read a book with some new concepts(to me anyway) I tend to lose a few quid until I figure where they fit into my game, this could be a killer if you're playing 22/20 on 6 tables!

Oh poker essays 1,2 and 3 are the best limit books beside Stox!
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

I understand why there is so much sarcasm against OP. It reminds me what I heard from 2+2 1 year ago when I was claiming that I am going "pro" after just 1 month of playing. I am trying to make a serious suggestion here since I have been there.

At first, OP, you must read "every" good book out there. Re-read them every once in a while. Right now there are only 2 books about Shorthanded fix limit games, so just read them a few times. Your theory is correct, 6 tabling $0.5/$1 can make a comfortable living if you don't have a family to support. This career offers a lot of freedom, so you might want to take the advantage of it and grind out harder when you are still young. Make sure to move up to $1/$2 as soon as you have 600BB and move down when it's only 300BB left. It might lead to higher variance but you will definitely learn more on $1/$2 and improve faster even if you have to move up and move down repeatedly for a few times in your career.

For those ppl who thinks 6 tabling $0.5/$1 for $4000 monthly is pathetic, you guys are probably too lucky. As far as I know 90% of population in this world find it nearly impossible to make $4000 after tax before they hit 30 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

You have to pay tax on poker winnings if you are in the US. I'm finding it implausible that someone is making $4000/mo on .5/1 without moving up. Working an office job is probably better than playing 120,000 hands a month.
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

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You have to pay tax on poker winnings if you are in the US. I'm finding it implausible that someone is making $4000/mo on .5/1 without moving up. Working an office job is probably better than playing 120,000 hands a month.

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How can the tax department find out how much you are making through poker? In that case, ppl who loses money on poker but make income from his regular job are able to file a tax deduction too?

It isn't an issue for most other countries at least. So yeah, if they have a way to find out how much tax you have to pay exactly, then the situation in US is very different since $4000/monthly means like $6000 actual profit/monthly?
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

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It reminds me what I heard from 2+2 1 year ago when I was claiming that I am going "pro" after just 1 month of playing.


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No offense dude, but was/is a horrible idea. I'm glad it worked out for you, but I would talk anybody but my worst enemy and poker prodigies out of doing that.
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Limit material.

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No offense dude, but was/is a horrible idea. I'm glad it worked out for you, but I would talk anybody but my worst enemy and poker prodigies out of doing that.

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Your comment is very reasonable. Talking about the % of ppl who works it out in the end, I now realize it's less than 5%. Glad that I am talented enough to beat mid stake games at least. I have learned way more lessons than I ever expected to exist in this career. Every beginner thinks this career is easier to achieve than it actually is, and I was, no exception, one of them
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