Future of sng's online?

[Scotty_12]

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In the peak of sngs it was possible to make 100k per month in sngs on party.

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r u fkn srs? Someone give me a time machine, ill grind 6 months straight, put it all in stocks, and be set for life

[DevinLake]

I'm pretty sure it's a typo and he meant 100k/yr.

[JSH06]

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I'm pretty sure it's a typo and he meant 100k/yr.

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Actually I think he meant per month. I could see this being possible with rakeback on Party considering you could probably sustain a 10% ROI at $500s back in the day. I didn't play all that much on Party though so I don't know how much the high stakes games ran.

[tigerite]

He means per month. Hell when I used to 8-table the $215s for 3-4 hours a day, part-time, I managed over $20k a month and I wasn't even that good.

As for spite-calling, that's ALWAYS been evident and used to happen to me all the time too. It's quite simple really, you just reduce your pushing range, or in other words, adapt.

[JSH06]

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As for spite-calling, that's ALWAYS been evident and used to happen to me all the time too. It's quite simple really, you just reduce your pushing range, or in other words, adapt.

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exactly

[braminc]

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I think there are lots of overrated SNGers from the party days who simply havent adjusted well to the change of the games. Suzzer speaks like one of those people (though i have no clue if he is...). I personally feel like the games havent gotten any tougher since one year ago (beginning of UIGEA) and they might even have gotten slightly softer...?

10% at the 33s are you speaking of turbo or regular? regular 10% is definitely achievable. If turbo, then its only achievable by the better players, but with just 4 tables shouldnt be out of reach. Remember roi alone means little....how many tables you have going is a HUGE factor.

Thirdly. If your not great at either game i would DEFINITELY say to learn cash instead. Theres way more money to be made, way more games to be played, far more freedom in terms of starting and stopping sessions, less annoyance if your connection [censored] up, etc etc. Cash is the way to go ESP for part timers. Its a quadruple win situation.

The only reason i still do sngs is that im slightly good at them now, and im making a good monthly clip (lol at 5-10 players averaging 5k/mth...) and i REALLY dont feel like starting over and sucking for 3-6 months before i match my current hourly rate. Im not in school anymore and have to pay for my life. Although one of these days im gonna have to suck it up and learn cash properly.

[Pedro Brazil]

The thing that really scares me are the top 10 money winners at the last 12 months (36-100, holdem 9-10 seated)on sharkscope. These guys are making between 23k and 37k/year. That gives less then 3k/month.

This number really sucks, considering these guys are probably the best/more hardworking at their level.

[JSH06]

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I personally feel like the games havent gotten any tougher since one year ago (beginning of UIGEA) and they might even have gotten slightly softer...?



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Are you f'n nuts? The games have gotten much, much tougher. More and more people have a decent/good understanding of push fold. There's more people who play very well. There's less complete fish that are just gonna donk off their stack early. The average player is much better. If SNGs were as easy as they were a year ago I'm pretty sure I could have a 15% ROI at $119s 8-12 tabling. Now I'd be lucky if I could get 8%.

[StregaChess]

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I think there are lots of overrated SNGers from the party days who simply havent adjusted well to the change of the games. Suzzer speaks like one of those people

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Yes there are those people and some of them even write books and get published. Suzzer is NOT one of those people, he be good...

[GtrHtr]

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He means per month. Hell when I used to 8-table the $215s for 3-4 hours a day, part-time, I managed over $20k a month and I wasn't even that good.


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T is right, sup man! Where the [censored] you been?? 100k a month was done by I'm sure several posters but I specifically recall one. The top tier were in Tigerite's situation, basically 8 tabling the 215s for 20kish part time.