Tony Mejia ranks the top 50 current NBA players

[sethypooh21]

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But the rate numbers, like Rebound Rate, take possessions into account.

[/ QUOTE ] But it doesn't take into account that his teammates are better rebounders than Martin's or Iggy's (or that all three other players spend more time at SF)

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Also, regarding the "doesn't need the ball" argument. I like that argument for guys Marion and Gerald Wallace. For Rip, though he might not need the ball, he needs a bunch of screens and plays called for him. This isn't necessarily a good or bad thing, I don't think. It depends. I just want to point out it can be a little deceiving to say that.

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Well the thing is, with a well run offense, those screens set up the screener as well as the screenie.



[/ QUOTE ]In Rip's case, I'm a huge fan of the curl play at the elbow they call for him. I'm not a huge fan of any play where he's running through a ton of back screens to get him the ball (too many guys standing around just setting picks).

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Case in point, how many open J's do Detroit big men get from the baseline/high post due to guys hedging on Rip's curl? Completely unscientifically, I'd say that Detroit gets 3 buckets a game where McDyess/Sheed set the pick on the left elbow, flare to the corner when their guy helps, and stick a J. Billups gets the assist, but the play was created because Rip is so money on that 16-foot turn in.

[Aces McGee]

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Well the thing is, with a well run offense, those screens set up the screener as well as the screenie...Case in point, how many open J's do Detroit big men get from the baseline/high post due to guys hedging on Rip's curl? Completely unscientifically, I'd say that Detroit gets 3 buckets a game where McDyess/Sheed set the pick on the left elbow, flare to the corner when their guy helps, and stick a J. Billups gets the assist, but the play was created because Rip is so money on that 16-foot turn in.


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This differs only in execution, however, from a guy who gets most of his shots putting the ball on the floor and going to the bucket. When he beats his man, the defense has to rotate to him, and this will lead to opportunities for others. He doesn't always get the assist, though -- he's often making the pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist.

-McGee

[ClarkNasty]

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Well the thing is, with a well run offense, those screens set up the screener as well as the screenie...Case in point, how many open J's do Detroit big men get from the baseline/high post due to guys hedging on Rip's curl? Completely unscientifically, I'd say that Detroit gets 3 buckets a game where McDyess/Sheed set the pick on the left elbow, flare to the corner when their guy helps, and stick a J. Billups gets the assist, but the play was created because Rip is so money on that 16-foot turn in.


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This differs only in execution, however, from a guy who gets most of his shots putting the ball on the floor and going to the bucket. When he beats his man, the defense has to rotate to him, and this will lead to opportunities for others. He doesn't always get the assist, though -- he's often making the pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist.

-McGee

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Blah blah blah. What matters is who you think the 4th best player in the league is.

[Aces McGee]

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Well the thing is, with a well run offense, those screens set up the screener as well as the screenie...Case in point, how many open J's do Detroit big men get from the baseline/high post due to guys hedging on Rip's curl? Completely unscientifically, I'd say that Detroit gets 3 buckets a game where McDyess/Sheed set the pick on the left elbow, flare to the corner when their guy helps, and stick a J. Billups gets the assist, but the play was created because Rip is so money on that 16-foot turn in.


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This differs only in execution, however, from a guy who gets most of his shots putting the ball on the floor and going to the bucket. When he beats his man, the defense has to rotate to him, and this will lead to opportunities for others. He doesn't always get the assist, though -- he's often making the pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist.

-McGee

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Blah blah blah. What matters is who you think the 4th best player in the league is.

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You're right. We should hijack every NBA thread with discussion of our fantasy league.

-McGee

[kidcolin]

let the disinformation fest begin. I, for one, want nothing to do with Al Jefferson.

[ClarkNasty]

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You're right. We should hijack every NBA thread with discussion of our fantasy league.

-McGee

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Totally inevitable since most of the prolific NBA posters got in the league (tuq, wtf?).

Just be glad you're in the Pacific Division with the lowly Beers, Igloos and Squaws. I mean, good lord, how can you lose?

[sethypooh21]

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Just be glad you're in the Pacific Division with the lowly Beers, Igloos and Squaws. I mean, good lord, how can you lose?

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Listen here, you Christo-fascist terror-monger...actually, I got nothing.

[ClarkNasty]

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Just be glad you're in the Pacific Division with the lowly Beers, Igloos and Squaws. I mean, good lord, how can you lose?

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Listen here, you Christo-fascist terror-monger...actually, I got nothing.

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That's right. Don't make me bust out Eskimo smack. I've already had to go to the Trajan Langdon card.

Though, in fairness, you should have a pretty formidable home court advantage up there. Though the Bombers are fans of any place where there's 20 hours of night for months at a time.

[Artdogg]

am I a prolific NBA poster?

[ClarkNasty]

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am I a prolific NBA poster?

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I always forget if you are tuq's gimmick or visa versa.

Either way, yeah, you both count obv. Not sure how you didn't get in. If nothing else, the chance to take Assani's moniez is too good to pass up.