Hand from Borgata WPT

[Kuztah]

Theres one thing that troubles me, im pretty sure he would make a continuation bet on the flop with an ace here unless it was a monster than maybe he would decide to slowplay it. So basicly my guess is that hands that check the flop after he bet into a utg limper are hands that are disgusted by the flop or hands that hit hard (2 pair or sets). Once u bet the turn, and he calls i relaly dont think he could make this call with a hand like qq or jj with 2 mroe players in the hand.

For that reason, im tending to believe he has a monster.

[king_of_drafts]

Ansky and AJ gave me good lols in this thread, but if I don't get anything else out of it I am going to be really disappointed after all the hype ZJ is building

[ZeeJustin]

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Theres one thing that troubles me, im pretty sure he would make a continuation bet on the flop with an ace here unless it was a monster than maybe he would decide to slowplay it. So basicly my guess is that hands that check the flop after he bet into a utg limper are hands that are disgusted by the flop or hands that hit hard (2 pair or sets). Once u bet the turn, and he calls i relaly dont think he could make this call with a hand like qq or jj with 2 mroe players in the hand.

For that reason, im tending to believe he has a monster.

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VNH Kuztah.

There are two possibilities here. 1) he meant to raise. 2) he didn't.

Many people have said 1 makes sense. It obviously does. AA would be by far the most likely hand for this line, with KK in a close second. AK and TT are also possible, but both are significantly less likely than AA or KK. If this is the case, we have to fold.

So now we must examine option #2. He meant to call.

There are really no hands that make sense with this line. If he had a suited connector, or some other unlikely bluff preflop, this is the PERFECT flop to bet. He HAS to bluff at this flop if he misses, and is certainly not dumb enough to make that huge raise preflop and not c-bet on this flop.

It is possible that he just meant to call again with the hands from #1 - AA, KK, AK, TT, but we still have a clear fold against that range, especially given that it's weighted more towards AA and KK.

So if he meant to call, what are we hoping he has. KQ? I suppose that's possible, but he would most likely c-bet the flop, and might not call the turn, but more importantly, he's not likely to 6x it preflop. There are a couple of other hands like this, but they are all really unlikely to fit the line he took.

So it clearly makes sense that this could be an angle shoot.

But if he raises big preflop, and then checks the flop, the turn call really doesn't make much sense at all, unless he is REALLY slowplaying something, in which case we still should be folding.

This is a clear fold IMO.

[DLizzle]

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There are really no hands that make sense with this line. If he had a suited connector, or some other unlikely bluff preflop, this is the PERFECT flop to bet. He HAS to bluff at this flop if he misses, and is certainly not dumb enough to make that huge raise preflop and not c-bet on this flop.



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with all of your live tournament experience I don't know how you can give this guy this much credit. Your conclusion (in how you should play the hand) is fine but using this to reach it is pretty optimistic imo. i don't agree that this evidence concludes that he was angling.