Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > 2+2 Communities > Other Other Topics

View Poll Results: DST
Jets vs DET 0 0%
Falcons vs PIT 7 100.00%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-26-2007, 04:45 PM
AceLuby AceLuby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rockin my new guitar instead of playing poker
Posts: 3,769
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

[ QUOTE ]
I've been watching too much CSI and reading too many mysteries lately. They'll always mention AFIS, the Automated Fingerprint Identification System as a way to identify unknown persons.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW, this doesn't exist IRL. There is no centralized computer with everyone's fingerprint, and there isn't a computer that can take a single whole fingerprint (none the less a partial) and find the person, or really even get a small group of people.

Fingerprints are all done by hand and are rarely used in any cases unless there is a lot of other evidence, which it shouldn't be necessary anyway. It is completely subjective.

They do file them, but there is no 'database' where a program will select the match based on another print.

This is the main reason why I started hating crime dramas, every story is based on this non-existant program and database.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-26-2007, 04:49 PM
gusmahler gusmahler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Northern California
Posts: 4,799
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've been watching too much CSI and reading too many mysteries lately. They'll always mention AFIS, the Automated Fingerprint Identification System as a way to identify unknown persons.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW, this doesn't exist IRL.

[/ QUOTE ]Really? You should probably correct http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat...ication_System then.

(I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I have no idea what exists or not.)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-26-2007, 05:23 PM
Brocktoon Brocktoon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,187
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

[ QUOTE ]
Fingerprints are all done by hand

[/ QUOTE ]

What is this supposed to mean? Are you disputing that fingerprints are taken electronically and filed into computer databases?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-26-2007, 06:09 PM
bobbyi bobbyi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Belittling Your Sample Size
Posts: 5,833
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

Even if the fully automated lookup system doesn't exist yet, I'm sure it will soon.

If so, I'll be in there. Thanks Goldman Sachs!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-26-2007, 09:51 PM
wh1t3bread wh1t3bread is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Initech
Posts: 2,408
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

[ QUOTE ]
Even if the fully automated lookup system doesn't exist yet, I'm sure it will soon.


[/ QUOTE ]

It does. It's just called IAFIS. While it doesn't have everyone who has committed a crime, nor everyone who has to have their fingerprints taken for a civil job it does have 47 million records.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-27-2007, 01:30 AM
Wetdog Wetdog is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Downswing? No, playing bad. No, I\'m sure its just a downswing.
Posts: 1,894
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

I was printed in 1971 on a buying liquor for minors charge. In 1996 I was printed after passing my securities license exam. The prints came back from the FBI lab noting the charge from 25 years earlier. So yeah.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-27-2007, 02:08 AM
soko soko is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Headed out west...
Posts: 2,443
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

Las Vegas Sheriffs Card for casino employees, got all 10 fingers electronically scanned.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-27-2007, 02:48 AM
schundler schundler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: LISTEN BUCKO
Posts: 1,811
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

they haven't got [censored] on me [censored]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-28-2007, 12:17 PM
AceLuby AceLuby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rockin my new guitar instead of playing poker
Posts: 3,769
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Even if the fully automated lookup system doesn't exist yet, I'm sure it will soon.


[/ QUOTE ]

It does. It's just called IAFIS. While it doesn't have everyone who has committed a crime, nor everyone who has to have their fingerprints taken for a civil job it does have 47 million records.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is one system that the FBI uses that no other agency can use. Also, it is far far far from perfect. In fact, the searching part of this doesn't even work well. It does store them, you just can't find one given a random fingerprint.

This is still done by hand and is completely subjective. Fingerprint db's and finding a name based off a print is very tough to do programmatically and is a field is computer science and math that is all it's own.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-28-2007, 12:48 PM
DrewDevil DrewDevil is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,715
Default Re: Are your fingerprints on file?

I had to get printed as part of applying for a Texas State Bar law license. I was genuinely irritated by this and inquired about what happened if I refused. I was told that they couldn't force me to get printed but that my refusal would be taken into account by the state bar when they were evaluating my application.

I gave in and let them print me, the bastards.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.