borgata shufflers not accurately counting cards

[Mr Rick]

At FW this weekend shuffler keeps showing the red light card missing indicator. Dealer asks floor for a new setup because its happening only with one deck, and then only every other time or so.

Floor declines request and instead has a new shuffler brought in and installed. Dealer manually counts "bad" deck and concludes it has 52.

Red light intermittently comes on the new shuffler on the same deck. Floor finally brings new setup (first time I ever thought a new setup was a good idea). Everything is fine after that.

Kudos to dealer who was so fast shuffling the "bad" deck I didn't realize he was doing it for several hands.

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Kudos to dealer who was so fast shuffling the "bad" deck I didn't realize he was doing it for several hands.

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This is getting rarer at Foxwoods since they've had shufflers for a while now. I've noticed lately that some dealers just sit there staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal. Dealers that do this really slow down shorthanded games.

[hayduke]

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Kudos to dealer who was so fast shuffling the "bad" deck I didn't realize he was doing it for several hands.

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This is getting rarer at Foxwoods since they've had shufflers for a while now. I've noticed lately that some dealers just sit there staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal. Dealers that do this really slow down shorthanded games.

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Funny you should mention this. I was playing a wonderful short 4/8 game this weekend. (And for once, the players weren’t screaming to be moved to full tables.)

Unfortunately, this one particular dealer was constantly staring at the shufflemaster after the conclusion of a hand, waiting for it to finish shuffling the other deck. I eventually got frustrated and asked, “why don’t you just shuffle this one by hand?”

He looked at me with a blank expression for a moment, glanced at the machine, then looked back at me and said, “I’m waiting for the machine. It’s faster.”

And to think that I’d resolved to only say nice things about the poor souls who are trapped in the purgatory that is the life of a dealer in the Foxwoods poker room…

[Quadstriker]

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staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal.

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I absolutely cannot stand this. My gut feeling is that it happens in my room more than I'd like due to the questions I get occasionally when hand shuffling after a blind steal.
"Why are you doing that?" etc.

[punkass]

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staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal.

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I absolutely cannot stand this. My gut feeling is that it happens in my room more than I'd like due to the questions I get occasionally when hand shuffling after a blind steal.
"Why are you doing that?" etc.

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I used to be annoyed when the dealer just waited, but I've noticed when the dealers shuffle up manually, it's pretty close to when the machine finishes too, so I find myself not being too annoyed anymore about this. Maybe saves 5-10 seconds.

[Mr. AtlanticCity]

I know this is a horrible newbie question that has probably been answered 74 times already, but why are auto-shufflers used in cash games but not for tournaments?

[SellingtheDrama]

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't - generally the Borg. wants either all tables to use shufflers in a MTT, or none.

So if they don't have enough functional machines, its none.

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Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't - generally the Borg. wants either all tables to use shufflers in a MTT, or none.

So if they don't have enough functional machines, its none.

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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to hijack the thread, just one of those things that I didn't understand that bugged me.

[RR]

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staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal.

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I absolutely cannot stand this. My gut feeling is that it happens in my room more than I'd like due to the questions I get occasionally when hand shuffling after a blind steal.
"Why are you doing that?" etc.

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I used to be annoyed when the dealer just waited, but I've noticed when the dealers shuffle up manually, it's pretty close to when the machine finishes too, so I find myself not being too annoyed anymore about this. Maybe saves 5-10 seconds.

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The dealer should not be sitting and waiting. It isn't that they finish about the same time the green light comes on it is if they hand shuffle they will have a deck ready for the next hand.

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The dealer should not be sitting and waiting. It isn't that they finish about the same time the green light comes on it is if they hand shuffle they will have a deck ready for the next hand.

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Agreed. On a tight mid-limit game, if the light goes on any time during the scramble, I'll finish shuffling by hand, as (a) I'll finish around the same time as it'd have taken me to open the machine and swap the decks, and (b) the hand is likely to be over before it's done shuffling again. I also try to do time collection after a hand that finishes before the shuffler's done. On a lower stakes game where the fast hands are a rarity, I'll sometimes sell chips or throw out missed blind buttons or something to give the machine an extra second, but I don't stall very much. I very rarely stop between hands to unjam the machine. I'll just shuffle up and deal and fix it while the players are acting. Time is money, after all, and it's in my best interest to get out as many hands as quickly and cleanly as possible. More hands and better action that way.