An Amazing Life

[Brad1970]

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

[tpir]

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

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I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."

[Brad1970]

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

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I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."

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Try Acts 9....start reading

[luckyme]

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

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I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."

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Try Acts 9....start reading

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or, Robinson Crusoe, Chapter 1 - 7.
It's based on an actual event, underline the parts that Dafoe added or that didn't actually happen that way and explain how we know that.

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[tpir]

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

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I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."

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Try Acts 9....start reading

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I have read it before but I have some spare time so I will read it again.... It's a nice story. What makes you think this actually took place? I am open to the idea that it did but when I read this it sounds like allegory to me.

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or the eyewitnesses who wrote about the miraculous things they saw because they were so spectacular?


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Except that the authors of the gospels were almost certainly not actual eyewitnesses to the miracles.

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So Paul of Tarsus didn't experience a miracle on the road to Damascus??

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I am open to the idea that he did, but it seems to be extremely unlikely, and since neither of his have evidence one way or the other, I think it's more reasonable to side with "no, he probably didn't."

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Try Acts 9....start reading

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I have read it before but I have some spare time so I will read it again.... It's a nice story. What makes you think this actually took place? I am open to the idea that it did but when I read this it sounds like allegory to me.

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Because I believe in what's written in the Bible. Simple as that. How or why would someone, Paul in this case, who was a staunch "hater" of Christ all of a sudden be one of his biggest supporters? Something extordinary (i.e. a miracle) would have had to happen in order for him to do an about face, no?

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Because I believe in what's written in the Bible. Simple as that.

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So "belief" in this case requires that you take this story as a literal occurrence?


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How or why would someone, Paul in this case, who was a staunch "hater" of Christ all of a sudden be one of his biggest supporters? Something extordinary (i.e. a miracle) would have had to happen in order for him to do an about face, no?

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That is certainly one possibility. There are lots of others though. Maybe something extraordinary happened to him that has a natural explanation. Why does the extraordinary event have to be miraculous by default? Maybe the story is exaggerated or allegoric. Maybe the story didn't happen at all.

How did you come to choose so certainly from all of these possibilities when you have the same information that I do?

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Because I believe in what's written in the Bible. Simple as that.

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So "belief" in this case requires that you take this story as a literal occurrence?


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How or why would someone, Paul in this case, who was a staunch "hater" of Christ all of a sudden be one of his biggest supporters? Something extordinary (i.e. a miracle) would have had to happen in order for him to do an about face, no?

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That is certainly one possibility. There are lots of others though. Maybe something extraordinary happened to him that has a natural explanation. Why does the extraordinary event have to be miraculous by default? Maybe the story is exaggerated or allegoric. Maybe the story didn't happen at all.

How did you come to choose so certainly from all of these possibilities when you have the same information that I do?

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I take that as a literal occurance & accept it on faith.

How do you come to choose to believe all of those 'critical thinker' authors that you & alot of others love to quote when trying to convince me & other Christians that we are wrong & that the 'critical thinker' crowd is right? What makes them so special?

In a nutshell, that's my position. That's your position. We're on 2 different sides of the coin & it will most likely remain that way unless something changes.

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How or why would someone, Paul in this case, who was a staunch "hater" of Christ all of a sudden be one of his biggest supporters? Something extordinary (i.e. a miracle) would have had to happen in order for him to do an about face, no?


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A friend of mine became mentally ill a few years ago and became convinced that he was the second coming of Jesus Christ. He believed that he could see angels and could heal people with his touch.

Before these episodes, he had never set foot in a church and was completely non-religious.

I guess that rather than helping his family to get him hospitalized, I should have instead taken everything he said at face value and followed his teachings.

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There's no-one forcing you to stay in this thread Hopey...there are many people who are schizophrenics or delusional...Maybe your friend had a religious experience coincide with an emotional trauma that caused his delusion...I'm sorry if that happened...