* OFFICIAL * Sopranos thread

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Is it obvious I like this show a lot? I grew up on Long Island surrounded by the children of mobsters, this show is very real

Similarly, I grew up in NJ and my father was peripherally involved in the bookmaking business (plus I'm Italian - Napolitan specifically). Thus I like the show as well.

However, it sounds like you're saying that all made guys are Capos. I know Christopher was kicking up to Paulie a couple of seasons back, and my understanding, Capos only kick up to Il Capo di tutti capi (in this case Tony).

But I'm not involved with the Camorra, so I could be wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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made guys are not necassarily capos, capos are always made guys.

Least important
Associates -> soldiers -> made guys -> capos/underbos -> bosses -> capo di tuti- most important.

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made guys are not necassarily capos, capos are always made guys.

Least important
Associates -> soldiers -> made guys -> capos/underbos -> bosses -> capo di tuti- most important.

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hmm.. good point. Then who are the bosses? I forgot that step. I know the Silvio is the Consigulari, I don't think he runs a crew, or am I wrong?

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[samjjones]

Is there a flowchart somewhere that would illustrate the Sopranos heirarchy for idiots/non-Italians like me?

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Is there a flowchart somewhere that would illustrate the Sopranos heirarchy for idiots/non-Italians like me?

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Here

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So Tony is a Boss, but not the boss of bosses. That makes sense, he has to kick up to Johny Sack I assume?

One thing really confused me, who kicked the bucket in the Fed's car? Wasn't that Carmine Lupertazi? I thought he died already... Carmine was the Boss of the Brookyn Crew who Johny Sack took over.

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That was Ray Curto who died in the car. On the flowchart it even says The RAT! Next to his name. This scene was just after Tony says, "I can't catch a break!" but this was a huge break for Tony.

As far as I know, Tony is boss of Jersey, Johnny is New York. I don't think Tony kicks up to Sack, they are more like equals and business partners. I could be wrong on this.

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So Tony is a Boss, but not the boss of bosses. That makes sense, he has to kick up to Johny Sack I assume?

One thing really confused me, who kicked the bucket in the Fed's car? Wasn't that Carmine Lupertazi? I thought he died already... Carmine was the Boss of the Brookyn Crew who Johny Sack took over.

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No, tony doesnt kick up to anyone. What I listed was a break down from each family. Ie, you have a jersey family, the five families in New York, ther is a Kansas City familiy, etc. The capo di tuti, kicks up to no one, but he does negotiate the splits of any shared turf with any other capo di tuti's, ie if you have a constuction bid, where you hold the keys to the union, but the job is in another guys turf, you split the profit. That wasnt Carmine he is dead.

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Is there a flowchart somewhere that would illustrate the Sopranos heirarchy for idiots/non-Italians like me?

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Here

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That chart has some signifigant errors on it. For example Tony B was kicked up mid-season last year. And Richie Aprile was a cappo.

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made guys are not necassarily capos, capos are always made guys.

Least important
Associates -> soldiers -> made guys -> capos/underbos -> bosses -> capo di tuti- most important.

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hmm.. good point. Then who are the bosses? I forgot that step. I know the Silvio is the Consigulari, I don't think he runs a crew, or am I wrong?

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From whay my uncle says, he was a bigwig back when the Italians and the syrians used to go at it in the 80s, the bosses just kind of oversee the capos, and are the middle men between the capo's and the really higher ups. Kind of like a secratary for a CEO.